What is the purpose of a quick release scope mount especially on an AR platform??

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My 50 Beowulf from Alexander Arms is on the way! I have ordered me a Trijicon ACOG to go on top of it and am confused as to what mount to purchase for it.

Everyone says that the quick release mount from LaRue is the way to go. I have no problem spending $150 on a mount since it plays a major role uniting the scope onto the rifle.

Here is my issue..... I do not think that I need a quick release since my 50 Beowulf does not have any iron sights. Does this nullify any reason for me to get a quick release mount or am I missing something here?

The reason that I ask is because I can get a solid great quality mount that is NOT quick release for half the cost. So I am asking you guys here before I shell out major cash for a LaRue quick release mount or before I get something just as good that is not a quick release and regret it later.

Any thoughts and input would be greatly appreciated!!!
 
If you don't have iron sights, you don't need QR mounts.

If you DO have iron sights, you still don't NEED QR mounts.

I have a rifle with fixed irons, with a QD Aimpoint mount. Sometimes I take the optic off to use the irons alone. That's the extent of my QD needs.
 
QR is nice if you are far away from home on a hunt and your current scope takes a digger; it allows you to replace it quickly with a second scope already to go
 
there are four possible reasons i know of to use the larue detachable mounts:

1. if your scope breaks, you can remove it without tools in order to use your buis
2. if you have multiple optics for the same gun (e.g. day scope, night vision scope, red dot)
3. if you have one optic you share between several guns (e.g. you want to use your acog on 3 different ARs)
4. removing the optic in order to fit inside a small hardcase
 
Multiple optics for the same gun does not equate to a need for a QD. Tools needed to change optics aren't exactly large and bulky. The only real need for a QD is if one may encounter a situation in which a failed optic must be removed rapidly to allow the use of some other type of sight. I have QD on a few optics but since i'm not fighting in a war anytime soon it was a want, not a need.
 
Having used the TA51 mount, ARMS #19S, and Larue ACOG mount, the main thing I like about the quick-release mounts is both of them had better return to zero than the thumbscrew mounts - although all three are plenty adequate for ball ammo under 300m.
 
If you get in the habit of keeping a leatherman with you, you will not have a problem getting a traditional mount off. The main reason for having a QD mount is in the event your optic fails/breaks and you need to revert to iron sights.
 
Having used the TA51 mount, ARMS #19S, and Larue ACOG mount, the main thing I like about the quick-release mounts is both of them had better return to zero than the thumbscrew mounts

Agreed however i have found that with any type of scope mount a good return to zero can be had if the mount is pushed forward while tightening the screws and tightening to the same torque or position.
 
I've GOT QD mounts for a couple of scopes. They fall into the category of nice to have but not essential.

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I've never found it necessary to buy QD mounts for ACOGs. The factory thumb screw/coin slot knobs are plenty easy and quick to loosen up with no tools. It is made to be set to hand-tight. If you tighten it as tight as you can with your hands every time, that is actually pretty consistent. In my experience, this has always got me back within a MOA or so of my original zero with the ACOG. If you get it too tight to get back off with your hands, any coin does the job no problem. I consider coin slot mounts to be just about as good as QD, since I always have a coin, a pocket knife blade, or something I can use to take them off if necessary.
 
I use a 1-peice mount so I can move it to the other upper, just easier than 2-peice mount and IMHO puts less stress on the tube.
 
Multiple optics for the same gun does not equate to a need for a QD. Tools needed to change optics aren't exactly large and bulky.

so you're saying you'd rather have to rely on tools than have the inherent ability to quick change and return to zero?
 
so you're saying you'd rather have to rely on tools than have the inherent ability to quick change and return to zero?
Yeah, I think I'd rather have QD rings. Which is probably why most my rifles wear Warne QD rings.
 
so you're saying you'd rather have to rely on tools than have the inherent ability to quick change and return to zero?

If my entire post is read i clearly said quite the opposite. The last sentence which you omitted in quoting me was: "I have QD on a few optics but since i'm not fighting in a war anytime soon it was a want, not a need."

The OP was asking about the need for a QD.
 
I have Leupold QR bases/rings on my .375 H&H Magnum Rem 700. I have two purposes in mind:

1. quick scope removal if I want to go to my irons
2. interchangeability of scopes...I have a Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40 on the rifle for elk, but want to easily be able to change to a 1.5-5 or 6 for bear should I find myself in Alaska, fishing/hunting, next year.

So far, the QR set-up works just fine, with a proper return to zero.

FH
 
The need for a QD mount is not a function of the gun but the shooter. If you do not have a need for it you don't need one.
 
henschman said:
I've never found it necessary to buy QD mounts for ACOGs. The factory thumb screw/coin slot knobs are plenty easy and quick to loosen up with no tools. It is made to be set to hand-tight. If you tighten it as tight as you can with your hands every time, that is actually pretty consistent. In my experience, this has always got me back within a MOA or so of my original zero with the ACOG.

If you make witness marks in the mounting screws it will not only help reduce your zero shift (line up the witness marks to repeat the same torque) but it will give you a visual indicator if your mount starts to loosen up on you. It isn't as repeatable as a good quick-release mount; but it will get you closer in that direction.
 
Does the ACOG mount have nuts or screws to tighten for mounting? If a nut you may be able to replace it with a wing nut for a sort of "poor man's" QD. There are black ones that work well for this.
 
Whether a want or a need, the convenience of quick detach mounts especially like those from LaRue is terrific. I have changed scopes on rifles enough times to realize I hate having to rely on tools especially since not every scope requires the same tool(s). I would much rather have QD than not.
 
Thank you guys for all of the feedback!!! I do not plan on going to war anytime soon and my rifle does not have iron sights. I can understand some people wanting to change optics on their rifles, but I have never done that..... perfect excuse to buy more goodies for other guns!!!

I went with the TA51 mount from Trijicon as opposed to the quick release. Thanks again guys!
 
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