What kind of performance you can get out of a 500 S&W carbine??

[saturno_v]

Do you think it woudl equal the modern strong loads for 45-70??

Irt would be interesting to see Marlin making one lever action chambered for the revolver monster cartridge....

After the 44-40 WCF Colt 1873-Winchester 1873 combo of the late 19th century and the 44 Magnum S&W 29-Marlin 1895 combo of the 50's, it's just about time to see a thrid interaction of this frontier classic...in Alaska it would go very well I bet!!!

 

[R.W.Dale]

Irt would be interesting to see Marlin making one lever action chambered for the revolver monster cartridge....

Never gonna happen, 500mag pushes 300wm pressures and is way beyond what any marlin platform can handle.

Recoil from a 500 carbine is also quite severe when shooting full powered loadings. Typically my handi rifle would only average a 100 to 200fps improvement over published velocities for a handgun.

Now 460S&W on the other hand is a completely different beast when shot from a carbine posting massive gains in velocity vs a handgun. BUT if anything recoil is even worse. My TC kadhin carbine actually sheared off a scope ring

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[Maverick223]

Possibly you could do a bit better if you used sloooooooow burning powder...but reloading costs (much less factory loads) would not be cheap.

 

[bluetopper]

Out of my 500 Handi-Rifle I'm getting 2,173fps from a 350gr lead gas check bullet.
That's 1,000 more foot pounds of energy than a 30-06.

I had been shooting it a while and was astonished when I chrono'd it.

My shooting buddies get mad at me when I leave it at home. They bring junk iron out and like to see it destroyed.

 

[saturno_v]

Out of my 500 Handi-Rifle I'm getting 2,173fps from a 350gr lead gas check bullet.
That's 1,000 more foot pounds of energy than a 30-06.

No it's not...that just a hair above 3600 ft/lb which is no more than 3-400 ft/lb more than a stout SAAMI compliant 30-06 load...

Some nuclear 45-70 loads can crank out close to 4000 ft/lb...

 

[bfoosh006]

http://billstclair.com/blog/040823.html.... here you go...

 

[MachIVshooter]

No it's not...that just a hair above 3600 ft/lb which is no more than 3-400 ft/lb more than a stout SAAMI compliant 30-06 load...

Some nuclear 45-70 loads can crank out close to 4000 ft/lb...

+1

My Marlin .45-70 loads are a 405 grainer atop 60 grains of H335 for 2,015 FPS and 3,650 ft/lbs. You can do a compressed load just a bit hotter for bolt actions and Ruger #1's.

Top .30-06 loads will hit the 3,200-3,300 FPE mark.

 

[bluetopper]

Ok, you win, but it was 1,000 more foot pounds than the chart I was looking at anyway.

You'd think somebody would say , "that's pretty good for a pistol cartridge though."

It still makes a bigger hole.

 

[Kentucky_Rifleman]

Is anyone besides H&R making a carbine for the 500 S&W? I've not looked at the ballistics for the 500, but it seems like any platform hardy enough for the hottest 444s and 45/70 loads could handle the 500, but I may be mistaken.

KR

 

[bfoosh006]

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[BCRider]

Thompson Center has a short Encore barrel chambered for the 500. I've got one. Shooting a 350 gn JHP Sierra bullet pushed by 42gn of H110 it flies at 1850 fps give or take a little from shot to shot. I'm sure I could get more with a faster powder since there's a HUGE fireball at the muzzle with the H110. It sure punches at the shoulder though. A really good pad is a must. I'm sort of looking around to get one of the TC shock absorbing stocks soon if I can find one for cheap.