What part on the M1 if it breaks..

[eclancy]

Gentlemen,
....Would take the M1 Garand out of action until replaced. I think it is one spare part that all M1 Garand shooters should carry with them to the range.
Let me know what you think it is.
Thanks again
Clancy

 

[trbon8r]

I'd think several different broken parts could do it. Among those that come to mind: firing pin, hammer, or extractor. A broken clip latch would turn the M1 into a single shot. Just like any other rifle, there are many parts that could break and take an M1 out.

 

[nbkky71]

By 'out of action' do you mean it cannot fire at all, or will not operate as it is intended (eg - loading & firing using an 8 round enbloc). There are several parts that the M1 can do without and still be able to fire, albeit single loaded.

But I'd say that the firing pin is the one major part

 

[TheLaxPlayer]

I'd have to agree, pretty hard to whack those primers when you don't have a firing pin.

 

[jerkface11]

You're way more likely to break the op rod than the firing pin.

 

[kBob]

eclancy,

my suggestion would be to locate a Depot level TM (technical manual) NOT an FM (Feild manual)

For that matter some -20 series TMs had spares listing in order of likely need, but I imagine the -30 and -40 series might have more.

A -10 series is for the individual soldier and covers what he can do himself and how to recognize common problems. The -20 is a unit level manual that tells how to replca and check or gauge parts with in the company. -30 is for Direct Support facilities and -40 is for depot level repair.

The manua;l shipped with CMP Garands is for the individual soldier and note there is a section on assessing common problems and you might garner some clues as to common parts problems from that,

When I wsa a Battalion Motor Officer we had load lists for parts on hand for our vehicles based on likey parts failure. The more likely the part to fail, the more we had in stock.

The same was true when I was a supply officer and responsible for the operation of the Arms Room. We had firing pin retaining pins and extractor springs for the M-16A1 in great numbers, but lesser #s of other parts as an example. Remember, the smaller and more likely to cause serious problems if lost a part is the more likely Joe Snuffy is to remove it and loose it!

BTW som TMs ae marked -10/20 or up to -10/40

As with the FMs the first number of a TM code tell you the general class of an item the second which specific item and the third the level of issue of the TM.

FMs tell the basics of using an utem to include normal user maintenence
TMs tell repair folks how to recognize a problem and repair it.
Oh yea don't forget a DAPam (Department of the Army Pamphlet) can give whateve info the DA feels like giving out (me, I loved Old Sarge and Bonnie and Connie ever month in PM magazine.....and I still have my original M-16A1 comic book)

and a TC is a training circular that can give valuable lessens leared type info

now all you have to do is find copies of all of the above a glean the info you need.

Good luck.

-Bob Hollingsworth

 

[highorder]

you're not going to get far if you shear a bolt lug off... how many GI's have a spare headspaced bolt handy?

 

[Andrewsky]

If it breaks when you need it, this is the "part" you will want:

And if you can't feed rounds from the magazine, then don't. Even in a combat situation I would be nervous about it because of the possibility of a slam fire.

 

[hps1]

I maintained 8 M1's for our club CMP rifle program for a lot of years. We completely wore out 3 rifle barrels during that time frame, having fired between 6000 & 7000 rounds through each of these three rifles. During that time, I replaced one or two broken firing pins, a couple of op-rod springs & several broken extractors. I might have replaced an ejector spring, but can't remember doing so. Never replaced a clip latch or clip latch spring.


By far, the most common failure was worn follower arms/follower arm pins. This will cause clip ejection on the 7th round and in severe cases can eject clip on 6th round (that is eject clip and one or two unfired rounds).

If I were to put together a spare parts kit for a Garand, it would include a firing pin, extractor, ejector & spring, op-rod spring, follower arm, follower arm pin.

Firing pin is the most likely to break and put the rifle out of commission.

Regards,
hps

 

[eclancy]

Gentlemen,
Extractor Plus Spring and Plunger. It would cause the bolt and all of it parts to fall apart. Ejector plus spring and plunger. VERY hard to FIND in the grass or stone. I just carry a spart bolt. But then again I cheat. VERY OLD TRICK. Take the wife's RED nail polish and paint it on the springs and plungers. Looks goofy but helps when hunting them at the range or on the rug in the house.
Thanks again Sir
Clancy