What Would You do with Garbage Remington

[FrankieJames7]

when was the last sucessful lawsuit against remington for defective products? i have an 870 12 gauge from the golden years of 2009-2011 since brand new and it always would not eject spent shells. turns out there was a burr on the chamber from the extractor being able to go too far forward, or maybe the barrel steel is just so low quality the extractor functioning normally caused that burr.

anyways, i filed off the burr, chamber is smooth and extractor port on the barrel is smooth again, but it still doesnt eject. the spent shell will bind up on the left side of the chamber instead of sliding out. the extractor side of the shell moves, which bends the shell and kinks it on the plastic. has anyone had a gun repaired or replaced by remington? i might have to sue them for a replacement

 

[L-2]

When a company from 2009-2011 goes away or out of business, such as the old Remington, I believe to becomes diffficult, if not impossible, to find an entity to sue for damages or performance. A lawyer may still attempt to do some research and take the case, but there might be some cost and risk to you, the plaintiff. Let's say it takes the lawyer ~5 hours of research before the lawyer finds out there's no entity in which to sue. At ~$200/hour, the lawyer may still want you, the plaintiff, to pay for that research by keeping ~$1,000 of the retainer already paid to that lawyer.

As the dollar amount is in the small claims dollar area, the plaintiff might be advised to do the plaintiff's own research, starting with identifying the entity/business to be served and sued. I wouldn't know if Alaska, where the plaintiff resides, or the state where Remington once was (NY or Madison, NC, possibly) might be the proper state & location to begin such a law suit.

Accordingly, I believe any single owner of an old Remington product is "SOL" regarding small civil matters.

I've got three older Remington shotguns and keep thinking what I'd buy next should any one of them break down. Maybe I'd, at least, find a good repair shop for older Remington shotguns should that ever happen. But then I'd still need to determine if it was worth it to get repaired or just by something else (probably the latter).

 

[FrankieJames7]

When a company from 2009-2011 goes away or out of business, such as the old Remington, I believe to becomes diffficult, if not impossible, to find an entity to sue for damages or performance. A lawyer may still attempt to do some research and take the case, but there might be some cost and risk to you, the plaintiff. Let's say it takes the lawyer ~5 hours of research before the lawyer finds out there's no entity in which to sue. At ~$200/hour, the lawyer may still want you, the plaintiff, to pay for that research by keeping ~$1,000 of the retainer already paid to that lawyer.

As the dollar amount is in the small claims dollar area, the plaintiff might be advised to do the plaintiff's own research, starting with identifying the entity/business to be served and sued. I wouldn't know if Alaska, where the plaintiff resides, or the state where Remington once was (NY or Madison, NC, possibly) might be the proper state & location to begin such a law suit.

Accordingly, I believe any single owner of an old Remington product is "SOL" regarding small civil matters.

I've got three older Remington shotguns and keep thinking what I'd buy next should any one of them break down. Maybe I'd, at least, find a good repair shop for older Remington shotguns should that ever happen. But then I'd still need to determine if it was worth it to get repaired or just by something else (probably the latter).

i just found the culprit. the ejector and barrel alignment post on the receiver broke. installing the barrel, it had questionable rotation play, as in the sight line and bead moved side to side too much. on a close look, the suspect 870 had no barrel alignment tab/ejector right at the front. im not sure if this part is removable or one piece with the receiver, but now i can finally try fixing it. it was odd because suspect 870 worked good for a short while, then never worked good again. now i know why.

now, remington went out of business or sold out? this is news to me. i will look it up but thanks for you time.

 

[FrankieJames7]

found it


i need 17,18,19,20. this years old problem will finally come to an end

 

[MEHavey]

See here;
https://thefiringline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6686256&postcount=66

 

[FL-NC]

I'd fix it and keep it as a spare shotgun in the barn.

 

[red rick]

Sell the good parts and get rid of your aggravation .

 

[thegatman]

Numrich might have the parts or they will buy the gun for parts. You could auction it.

 

[gralewaj]

The ejector parts 18,19 in that diagram are the rivets that hold the ejector and tab in place. The old rivets need to be drilled out and the receiver refinished to complete this repair. I've read this repair should be done at the factory or by a certified gunsmith. Since your tab is broken, the receiver is essentially junk, it's a costly repair if you want it to look good when done.

There is another fix for the Remington barrels extraction issues. I think there is a thread here that describes it very well. The inside radius of the chamber is slightly off, and pinches the shell casing in the chamber after it's fired. Polishing/reaming of the chamber is the correct fix for this issue. (the link to the firing line post shows the chamber reaming fix)

 

[Sovblocgunfan]

Sell it as-is stating the known issues. Clean-conscience.

 

[RUT]

Another reason I'd never buy anything Remington again. Sad....

 

[red rick]

I have 4 870’s that I bought about 7 years ago . I haven’t had any problems with any of them . They don’t have many rounds through them though . I like how good my 12 gauges pattern buckshot and birdshot used at a turkey shoot at my hunting club . They have a rule once a shotgun wins a round you have to put it back in your truck . I brought my two 12 gauges and they both were back in my truck after 2 rounds .

 

[PapaG]

I’d sure take a shot at fixing it. Unless it’s an Express. Any decent smith can replace the ejector. I just had one done last year.

 

[dh1633pm]

My 870 works like a champ. A friend of mine had a problem with his 870. I put him in contact with another friend that used to work at the arms. One short call and his 870 is all fixed up. Yes, Remington went bankrupt.

 

[entropy]

i just found the culprit. the ejector and barrel alignment post on the receiver broke. installing the barrel, it had questionable rotation play, as in the sight line and bead moved side to side too much. on a close look, the suspect 870 had no barrel alignment tab/ejector right at the front. im not sure if this part is removable or one piece with the receiver, but now i can finally try fixing it. it was odd because suspect 870 worked good for a short while, then never worked good again. now i know why.

now, remington went out of business or sold out? this is news to me. i will look it up but thanks for you time.

Unlike other makes where the ejector is easily removable, ( or removes itself like the Win. 1200's)
Remington 870 ejectors were installed the way they were because even with heavy use, they'd never need to be replaced. Something bad happened to that 870, either a Kaboom that loosened the front rivet, or operator headspace and timing issues with a gorilla trying to jam the barrel on when it wasn't in the right position. Either way, it will end up basically needing to be rebuilt, as the rivets need to be replaced. A good hot blueing is recommended, as the Unblued rivets look bad, and cold blue on the looks worse.

 

[Virginian]

I have repaired, and/or converted to 3",, several without replacing the rivets or having to refinish the receiver. You can either pry the parts carefully off the rivets, and then re-rivet, or drill and tap the rivet for a small machine screw.

 

[PapaG]

FWIW, there no longer is a “Remington”. Dead about two years now. Killed by corporate greed and mismanagement. Don’t know how RemArms will pan out. Already one big switch, maybe for the better. New expresses were tougher than the last ones but a couple of the new Fieldmasters looked as good or better than the original Sportsman and Expresses which were pretty good. I’ll keep shooting my 1975-6-8-85-89-2016 conglomerate which wears only the original stock and barrel. Backups ar both from the sixties and seventies and I’ve laid in enough parts for the rest of my life. About 300K rounds through my TB.
Sure would like to see real 1100s and 700s again.

 

[FrankieJames7]

The ejector parts 18,19 in that diagram are the rivets that hold the ejector and tab in place. The old rivets need to be drilled out and the receiver refinished to complete this repair. I've read this repair should be done at the factory or by a certified gunsmith. Since your tab is broken, the receiver is essentially junk, it's a costly repair if you want it to look good when done.

There is another fix for the Remington barrels extraction issues. I think there is a thread here that describes it very well. The inside radius of the chamber is slightly off, and pinches the shell casing in the chamber after it's fired. Polishing/reaming of the chamber is the correct fix for this issue. (the link to the firing line post shows the chamber reaming fix)

2 rivets and replacing 2 parts is cake. those manuals are written to take more of your money.

 

[FrankieJames7]

I have repaired, and/or converted to 3",, several without replacing the rivets or having to refinish the receiver. You can either pry the parts carefully off the rivets, and then re-rivet, or drill and tap the rivet for a small machine screw.

what i was thinking

 

[FrankieJames7]

Unlike other makes where the ejector is easily removable, ( or removes itself like the Win. 1200's)
Remington 870 ejectors were installed the way they were because even with heavy use, they'd never need to be replaced. Something bad happened to that 870, either a Kaboom that loosened the front rivet, or operator headspace and timing issues with a gorilla trying to jam the barrel on when it wasn't in the right position. Either way, it will end up basically needing to be rebuilt, as the rivets need to be replaced. A good hot blueing is recommended, as the Unblued rivets look bad, and cold blue on the looks worse.

what is your favorite black oxide @ home finish? this is a black gun. but tbh looks are the last priority on this gun, it is a field hunter, it has rust from the sand and rain and canoe splashes that will never go away and get added to. as long as it works then im happy

 

[FrankieJames7]

Another reason I'd never buy anything Remington again. Sad....

what i said. how ever my dad just bought a brand new 870 12 gauge a month ago. no problems yet and might have already killed a goose. i would never spend my own money on a remington from 07 to 14 though. i do notice on the brand new 870 there are alot less dull cutter marks from the lathe and mill, where as the broken 870 would almost cut you from the sharp burrs

 

[N555]

Fix it and then lose it in a boating accident.

 

[FrankieJames7]

Fix it and then lose it in a boating accident.

could have LitteralLarryly happened last night crossing the rivers yukon and tanana in a canoe when the ice was going out. thankfully, the ice stream wasnt as thick further upstream though. only 1 duck. tried out some new ghillie suits, i forgot the camo brand but some a flock of 5 specs flew right over me and sadly i didnt see them till they were 10 feet over me, i mean directly above me, as the ghillie suit hat was blocking my vision of them. i shot and missed but i wasnt in a blind or anything, i just sat down and called and never saw a goose so clueless as to where i was at. 10/10 would recomend goose hunting in a ghillie