What You Want In A Gun Store

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I always appreciate a bit of knowledge on the topic at hand from a gun store clerk or owner and, even better yet, an admission from the same clerk or owner that he/she doesn't know anything about the topic at hand if that's the case. I also don't appreciate folks who try to steer you to one specific gun or one specific manufacturer, especially when you come in and ask for something else. The first time I hear a "Why would you want to buy one of those when you can buy one of these?" is the last time I visit that shop ... and it's happened more than once.
 
If you do end up opening a gun store, how about a suggestion box?

Or better yet, a well maintained and well built website with a suggestion form.

That way if customers in your particular area have ideas they like, or even complaints about your store or staff, they have a way to voice their opinion other than just not coming any more.
 
Don't forget the ladies. We don't want to be talked down to or be "helped" to make a decision. Stock the holsters designed for female carry, offer a "ladies night" with discount, and treat us with respect. This will earn you not just our business, but our family and friends' business too. Word of mouth can be the greatest and cheapest marketing tool you can have.

My ex-wife had those problems. She went into a gun store once and asked a sales guy for a box of ammo for a S&W .460. He asked, "What caliber is that?" She rolled her eyes and said ".460 Smith and Wesson!" He got a box, pulled one out and you should have seen his eyes get big as saucers.
 
I don't much care about prices, as long as they are not completely unreasonable. What I look for is a friendly hello when I come in, and a thanks for coming when I leave. Face it, we're aren't going to buy a gun every time we come in. Make us feel like you want us to come back anyway.
 
What You Want In A Gun Store

Hot college girls that know a lot about firearms and firearm accessories working behind the counters. :D


Someone that can honestly give me a straight answer -- "Does this gun and holster match my outfit?"
 
I would say have them keep one of every gun they sell under the glass as a demo model only (not for consignment/used firearms obviously).

Whenever I say "do you have such and such" and they say "i can order it for you" i have absolutely no interest in doing so without handling one first. Keep one spare in the glass so the customer can at least get a feel for it before ordering one for them.

Also it helps to have a knowledgeable female on the staff for the women customers who might be intimidated, or just to flirt with ;)
 
It was briefly mentioned earlier but to be successful you have to have a niche. "You can't be all things to all people" is a good model for a business. Also, "You can't please all the people all the time" is another timeless piece of advice. As you read, if you want to have 1 of everything on hand and one more of each in back (because no one wants to buy the display model and no one wants to wait while you order it) can cause you to tie up millions in inventory. If you don't have a $2million dollar line of credit then you need to "specialize" in a few areas and whatever you decide, you do it well with well informed employees.

Some suggested reloading. Stocking reloading supplies is cheaper than stocking every new production handgun and rifle. Others have suggested not being a seasonal shop but to stick to a few basics and run with it. Very sound advice. Of course you must sell ammo. If you sell reloading supplies it is a natural to stock ready-to-go ammo too. It would be wise to hook up with a very good ammo producer who could make ammo in white generic boxes where you can sell it really cheap as range ammo and offer the variety of the name brands and specialty SD ammo where you make your money.

If you want a lot of foot traffic, some have suggested Black Friday type deals. If you have the pulse of your business and local needs, you can cater these "blow out" specials around items that many want, not items that collect dust. Regulars will stop in every Friday to see what you're "giving away".

If I was to open a gun shop I'd specialize in used guns. Like some said, encourage trade ins. Have signs posted and ads printed that advertise "Top Dollar Paid for your unwanted firearms". Have cases and cases of used guns and encourage consignments from your locals as well. If they are priced reasonably by the seller, you can get 15% of the sale. 15% of profit for something you didn't have to put out money up front for is a nice deal. Also, when someone buys a consignment gun they also may want other things you have for sale. Buying is like a frenzy. You lay down cash for a gun and all of a sudden you have the urge to buy (............) for it. Cleaning supplies, reloading supplies, ammo, etc. A 15% profit can turn in to a $200 sale of accessories and ammo. All for something you didn't pay for up front. If you're known as a consignment/used gun specialist then you get the regulars stopping in daily to see what new items you have for sale. All without advertising.

The same theory works for internet transfer fees. Charge $25, not $50 or $75. Encourage your customers to see you to transfer their internet purchase. That's $25 for some paperwork and they'll also pick up the extra goodies. All you want to do is drive people into your shop and if you are clean, organized and have knowlegable and friendly people behind the counters you have a recipe for success. Trying to carry every gun from every maker and you have a recipe for failure unless you have deep pockets. I speak from experience. These grey hairs have seen a lot of retail plans succeed and fail. Whatever you decide to "be" just do it well, not half ass. If you can't afford to have friendly and informed staff then you need to keep yourself and your partners behind the counter 24/7 until you are big enough to hire qualified people. One bad employee can kill a business just like one good one can help more than you believe.
 
- Big selection
- Helpful staff
- Reasonable prices

To me, location and price are kind of important, but I'd pay slightly more or drive slightly farther for a shop that meets the other criteria (luckily, there are two in my area that meet my expectations).
 
Whats most important for me is good customer service by helpful and knowledgable staff. A good size range is a plus, if well lit and ventilated. Decent selection of firearms and accessories. They don't have to carry everything but it would be great if they help you order it if they don't.
 
I would have to say that the most important thing to me is recognition. I may not make a purchase every time I walk in, but I have made more than a few. Having the staff recognize the fact that I am a recurring customer, and even knowing my name when I walk in, is what I want.
If they recognize the fact that you regularly spend money there, they tend to be more flexible on pricing. Selection is nice, but the larger stores with big inventories tend to have higher markup, since they have more overhead (based on my observations, YMMV).
 
I have bought quite a few guns this year and have spent some time in gun stores. I have to say that from a gun dealers POV, it seems like almost everyone who walks in these days wants something that I don't have in stock.

I agree about focusing on a specific area. I ordered a CZ527 Varmint from a local shop, when it came in, it was like a novelty item because all they sell are EBRs and Glocks. I asked them about shotguns and they told me, "nobody around here shoots shotguns", which, I suppose is true, the nearest trap or skeet places are 50-80 miles from here.

Conversely, I ordered my Uzi on-line from a dealer in NorCal and it was the first Uzi my other dealer who did the transfer for me had ever seen in person. It's gotta be frustrating to be a dealer, have cases of Glocks, S&Ws and Berettas sitting there and have every other person walking through door only wanting a "SIG P224 to the eighth power with black rhino grips and a diamond encrusted hammer, they only made eight of them and it is SSE".

I don't know if I am unusual but I like guns that not everybody else does so I must frustrate the heck out of dealers because I never want a DPMS AR or a Glock, I am asking, "When are the Tavors going to be available?" or "Can you get me a CZ75 SP01?"
 
Whoever talked about a clean bathroom, I agree. My favorite FLGS for transfers has a filthy bathroom. That is the only problem with the store.

Seconded. A dirty bathroom with insects, the stenches of ammonia, tobacco, and axe, and graffiti just screams 'redneck heap of scrap'.

If you will have dogs in the store, get low allergy dogs as some customers may be allergic and you don't want to scare them off.

Some people are Cynophobes, or have phobia of dogs. I'm one of those people whom dogs seem to hate. Frequent barkers, growlers, and otherwise loud, underfoot, and in your face are things to avoid.

No Smoking. The best store for gunsmithing in my area will get caught sooner or latter for violating state law. I don't want to walk out of a store smelling like cigar smoke.

This can be particularly important for the female clientele. Women, especially my mother, have supernaturally good senses of smell and find the most random things repulsive. Cigarette smoke is often one of those things. And whatever happens, don't allow in any Marijuana smoke. Thanks to my roommate, I now start coughing when I just smell the odor of the plant.

Don't have a coffee table, locate above a cafe or as a secondary business next door.

In stores, the coffee table always turns into an excuse to sit for a while and enjoy the free drinks without buying anything.

Have more capital than you think you will need.

Axiom of a college student: Everything costs more than it does.

I agree on having cheap ammo for sale. Also stock more unusual cartridges like non-corrosive 7.62x54r (even if its just a box or two)

Cheap ammo and rare cartridges are the things that separate out good vendors from the rest.

Leave politics out. You don't know who will walk though the door and I know quite a few non-traditional gun owners. On the same note, don't say dumb things about gun bans that I know is not true.

Politics is the fastest way to get into an intractable fight with someone. Leave out the signs and adverts saying things like "Real Americans", "Patriots", or "Liberals not welcome". It makes your store and everything associated with it look like backtwards bigots. A large proportion of the gun public and the prospective gun buyers are not politically inclined, and could very well be wildly opposed to your rhetoric. Include religion on the things to avoid list. Islam and Atheism are the systems that cause the hottest arguments. Judaism isn't quite so sensitive, but with the perseverance of Jewish Conspiracy Theories and antisemitism and the memory of the Holocaust, it's still a slippery slope. Finally, if I hear or see one more person, salesman, merchant, or store troll about a gun, ammo, or anything ban, I'm going to compare the hardness of the nearest wall and my head.

Have an email list and send out unadvertised specials to customers.

Specials are great ways to motivate people to buy now. As I learned in Vector, everybody loves free stuff.

Get involved in the community. There is a nearby pet store that has a tradition of local politicians visiting it and getting a picture with the parrot. Try to get to the same point.

Hey, if you're lucky, your Picture with Stag Arms Santa photo event will get picked up by the media.

Don't try to spread FUD

Here's a fun game: take an uneducated neophyte to a gun show. Go up to the table of some Joes selling revolvers, pistols, rifles, shotguns, EBR's, and other random guns and have him ask the following questions: "What do you recommend for Home Defense? Why not that other gun for Home Defense? Can I open carry that pistol? Which of these is best for SHTF? What if Obama tries to ban this? Which gun should I get for my Mom?" Have him give you the answers he receives. Then give him a numbered list of all the misinformation he received coupled with the truth.

Do have a knowledgeable, pleasant staff. I am willing to pay slightly more for it.

A good staff makes or breaks a business based on direct sales and interaction with the customer.
 
Well i tell ya. I drive a semi for a living sll over the us. Frequintly i stop at cabelas,they pretty well al have truck parking. If they'd have truck parking would be 1 UP
 
Salesman and Range Officers (if there's a range) who aren't rude and condescending to people.
I agree totally! Going to a gun shop should be enjoyable, but I've been to a few with arrogant/unfriendly staff....I even overheard one employee talking about how he "dealt some street justice." Although this "justice" may have been warranted, it's not something I would broadcast within earshot of customers.
 
I would say have them keep one of every gun they sell under the glass as a demo model only (not for consignment/used firearms obviously).

Whenever I say "do you have such and such" and they say "i can order it for you" i have absolutely no interest in doing so without handling one first. Keep one spare in the glass so the customer can at least get a feel for it before ordering one for them.

That's quite an investment in inventory that costs a LOT - most smaller stores can't afford to have upwards of $50,000 sitting there not getting turned over and sold
 
The longer I read this thread, the more I become convinced that virtually no one here owns their own business nor has any basic understanding of how an actual retail bunsiness worls.
 
^ I've never run retail. Most of my business is just keeping a few popular orders and being willing to send out for stuff that I can't personally supply.
 
The longer I read this thread, the more I become convinced that virtually no one here owns their own business nor has any basic understanding of how an actual retail bunsiness worls.

So tell us what we're missing

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All the usual suspects are important, like competent and friendly staff. You can't assume everyone is a noobie, nor can you expect everyone is an expert when you hand them a gun to look at. Some brief explanation never hurt anyone.

It's a sign of the times, but most of my LGS are very very busy. Not enough staff to meet the requests of all the customers. For that reason, I never feel like I should take too much time from any one of them. I would love LOVE to see a bunch of guns, but I always feel like I'm bothering them to ask. For that reason, I usually don't and just research online instead. But honestly, it would be nice to take a look at 5 or 10 guns to see which one fit me best, which one lines up sights for me best, figure out whether I prefer a Winchester or Remington bolt, etc.

I'm not sure how a gun store owner can fix this, but nevertheless, that is my complaint. The handguns are under glass and the long arms are out of reach. It makes the act of shopping darn near impossible.
 
a truly knowledgeable staff, men and women who know what the measurements of a gun stock are, and who can measure a person so the gun actually fits them. a decent selection of firearms, ammunition, cleaning, and reloading supplies. same goes for hunting calls, decoys, scents, optics, etc. clothing to me is optional for a gun shop.
 
So you essentially can't have good service and good prices?

Why not?

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As the saying goes,

"Price, quality, or service. Pick two."

Every element has a price. Service costs money. Quality costs money.

You can have top quality and extraordinary service but you will have to pay for it. Top-notch, knowledgeable service people don't work for free. The more knowledgeable and the more customer-oriented the further from free they work because those skills are in demand.

You get what you pay for.
 
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