What's Smaller Than A Glock 26?

[Phydeaux642]

I just purchased a CZ 2075 RAMI because I liked the size with the ten round magazine. Well, mine was shipped with two 14 round magazines and I can't find any 10 rounders out there. I posted here a few days ago asking if anyone knew where any 10 round mags were, but no response. And, getting on the CZ forum to ask a question is a strange little adventure that I just bypassed.

Anyway, I guess I will have to look for a different carry gun in 9mm and I have been looking and comparing. Is the Glock 26 about the smallest gun out there that has at least a 10+1 round capacity? It seems to be smaller than the XD9 sc, the M&P Compact and real close to the Taurus PT111. Any other suggestions?

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"Phydeaux, bad dog....no biscuit!"

 

[19-3Ben]

Kel-tec P11.
It's shorter, thinner, and lighter than the Glock, and is still 10+1. I have shot one once and it seemed like a decent gun.

 

[Black Majik]

The new Wilson Combat ADP pistol is very subcompact. I held one today and was surprised to find that the gun was a doublestack pistol, it felt so thin.

 

[Jackal]

Kahr PM9 and PM40's are smaller.

 

[harmonic]

Overall length in inches
Sig 232, 380 cal: 6.60
Ruger 380: 5.16
Walther PPS 9mm: 6.3
Sig 239: 6.6
G26: 6.29
G19: 6.85
HK USP Compact: 6.81

Overall height in inches
Sig 232, 380 cal: 4.70
Ruger 380: 3.6
Walther PPS 9mm: 4.4
Sig 239: 5.1
G26: 4.17
G19: 5.0
HK USP Compact: 5.0

Overall width in inches
Sig 232, 380 cal: 1.20
Ruger 380: .820
Walther PPS 9mm: 1.04
Sig 239: 1.2
G26: 1.18
G19: 1.18
HK USP Compact: 1.14




Weight unloaded in ounces
Sig 232, 380 cal: 17.6
Ruger 380: 9.4
Walther PPS 9mm: 19.4
Sig 239: 27.5
G26: 19.75
G19: 20.99
HK USP Compact: 23.52

Weight loaded in ounces
Sig 232, 380 cal: N/A
Ruger 380: N/A
Walther PPS 9mm: N/A
Sig 239: 29.7
G26: 26.10
G19: 29.98
HK USP Compact: N/A

Standard magazine capacity
Sig 232, 380 cal: 7
Ruger 380: 6
Walther PPS 9mm: 7 or 8, depending upon magazine: one of each provided
Sig 239: 8
G26: 10 rounds
G19: 15 rounds
HK USP Compact: 13 rounds

Trigger pull
Sig 232, 380 cal: DA/SA 10.0 lbs/ 4.5 lbs
Ruger 380: 8 pounds
Walther PPS 9mm: 6.1 pounds
Sig 239: DA: 10.0 pounds; SA: 4.5 pounds
G26: 5.5 pounds
G19: 5.5 pounds
HK USP Compact: N/A

 

[glockman19]

I carry either a Glock 26 S&W 442/642 or a Kimber Ultra. I would personally stick with the Glock 26.

 

[JohnBT]

www.outdoorsuperstore.com/product.asp?prod=523425

It's say In Stock. But $48??? Is that a typo?

 

[Phydeaux642]

Kel-tec P11.
It's shorter, thinner, and lighter than the Glock, and is still 10+1. I have shot one once and it seemed like a decent gun.

Have one....jam-o-matic.

Kahr PM9 and PM40's are smaller.

I really want 10+1 capacity.

Overall length in inches
Sig 232, 380 cal: 6.60
Ruger 380: 5.16
Walther PPS 9mm: 6.3
Sig 239: 6.6
G26: 6.29
G19: 6.85
HK USP Compact: 6.81

Looking for 9mm.

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"Phydeaux, bad dog....no biscuit!"

 

[kludge]

Kel-tec P11.
It's shorter, thinner, and lighter than the Glock, and is still 10+1. I have shot one once and it seemed like a decent gun.

Have one....jam-o-matic.

Send it back to Kel Tec.

Mine has never so much as hiccupped.

 

[marshall3]

Link to pocket pistol info

Here's a link to lots of pocket pistol information...

http://www.mouseguns.com/pocksize.htm

 

[bhhacker]

a mouse

 

[Phydeaux642]

Send it back to Kel Tec.

I probably will, but I don't think I will be able to trust it at this point.

a mouse

I don't know of a "mouse" size gun in 9mm.


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"Phydeaux, bad dog....no biscuit!"

 

[blackcash88]

You can get S&W magazines for the P11 giving it 12+1 capacity.

 

[Autolycus]

Try an HK P2000sk.

 

[sm]

Maybe this can be of assistance:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=171820

 

[harmonic]

Looking for 9mm.

They are all 9mm. The 380 is a 9mm Kurtz. (9mm "short")

 

[Phydeaux642]

They are all 9mm. The 380 is a 9mm Kurtz. (9mm "short")

Yes, I realize that. It is technically a 9mm with inferior ballistics. So, when I mentioned 9mm, I meant the 9mm that comes to everyone's mind when you mention 9mm and not the .380.

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"Phydeaux, bad dog....no biscuit!"

 

[distra]

What about a Springfield EMP? 9rds in a slim 1911 platform.

 

[Phydeaux642]

I would love to have an EMP, it's just a little spendy.

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"Phydeaux, bad dog....no biscuit!"

 

[romma]

Kahr has PM9, CW9... Keltec P11 and PF9,,, Rohrbaugh has the smallest 9...

 

[MCgunner]

Kel Tec P11. I have one. Best little pocket gun available at any cost IMHO. 13 rounds of firepower (with optional 12 round mags from KT that are flush fit). Mine has never ever jammed in over 11,000 rounds. I never had to send mine back, shoots 3.5" rested groups to POA at 25 yards, the perfect pocket pistol. It has a lifetime warranty from one of the best companies extant for customer service. If it fails, they'll fix or replace it no hassles.

The G26 is porky, heavy, won't do well as a pocket pistol in warm weather. The P11 is about as large as I wanna carry in a front pants pocket, but rides well all day long.

Then there's the Kahrs and the PF9 (9+1 rounds I think) that are single stack and even thinner that the P11's 1" thickness.

The smith and wesson mags can increase capacity of the P11 to 15+1, but extend below the grip a bit. The idea in design was for those carrying a Smith 59xx as a primary that the same mags would fit the back up P11.

 

[bhhacker]

Quote:
Send it back to Kel Tec.
I probably will, but I don't think I will be able to trust it at this point.

Quote:
a mouse

I don't know of a "mouse" size gun in 9mm.




Haha i meant an actual mouse

 

[MCgunner]

Rosen leather works rather well for IWB. Mostly, I pocket my P11 anymore.

 

[Phydeaux642]

Rohrbaugh has the smallest 9

Small, but also a little spendy.

Kel Tec P11. I have one. Best little pocket gun available at any cost IMHO. 13 rounds of firepower (with optional 12 round mags from KT that are flush fit). Mine has never ever jammed in over 11,000 rounds.

I really wanted mine to be like that. Unfortunately there was 11 FTF in the 100 rounds I put through it.

 

[hirundo82]

http://www.outdoorsuperstore.com/product.asp?prod=523425

It's say In Stock. But $48??? Is that a typo?

I think that is just the magazine.