What's the most regrettable firearm purchase you've ever made?

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Remington 597lawyertriggerjammomatic

Hey me too!

Dont forget the wonderfull all-plastic construction complete with a nice seem running along the center of the whole damn rifle and the "free-floated" stock that contacts the barrel along its entire length. Im not sure if the self-ejecting magazine is a feature or not, typically i like to fire all the rounds in the mag before i eject it so i guess its not all that handy. Dont forget the occasional short strokes that result in a chambered round but NOT a cocked hammer (thats my favorite kind of malfunction; line up the sites, squeeze.........squeeze more.......what the hell?).

I will say that if i can stomach the horrible construction of the weapon and put out of mind the 80% likelyhood that it wont actually function at any given point that it puts the holes pretty close together.

All in all, the final judgement is that its $30 less than the 10/22 and half the gun, which is really saying something since the factory-stock 10/22 isnt exactly a work of art.
 
Jeez, C_Yeager, did you buy yours new or did you buy it off a 'lightly used' rack? If it was the latter it might have been the rifle I owned. Was the plastic stock an ugly gray color too? Did the metal finish look almost like Krylon spray paint except that it did nothing to inhibit rust?

All in all, the final judgement is that its $30 less than the 10/22 and half the gun, which is really saying something since the factory-stock 10/22 isnt exactly a work of art.

Lol. So true.
 
I think my worst purchase was my S&W Model 29 .44 mag revolver. Not because it is bad, because it is not. The problem is, every time I go to the range, I love shooting it so much I tend to spend $40-$60 in ammo for it alone!

I need to start reloading....
 
Enfield No.4 Mk2 from a table at a gun show. Turned out to be unsafe to fire. The seller at the gun show told me I'd have to talk to the importer. The importer said I'd have to talk to the seller. So I was out $150.

I bought a No.4 Mk1* from a fellow THR member that's not as pretty as the Mk2 but it works. The Mk2 sits in the closet. Maybe I'll make it a thief-bait gun. :)

I bought a used FEG PJK-9HP that turned out to have a truly awful trigger. It was cheap and a quick trip to the gunsmith fixed it. It's a good little shooter now.

The only gun I've ever sold is a Rexxio single-shot .45LC/.410 pistol. After firing a few boxes of ammo it developed the odd trait that I could only cock the hammer with the barrel pointed up in the air. Straight on or pointed down it wouldn't move back. The only reason I bought it in the first place is a friend of mine REALLY needed the cash and he wouldn't just take a gift so I bought that POS from him.
 
I know that many people have had great luck with them, but for me, the two times I bought a firearm with Taurus on the side were very regrettable experiences. They became even more regrettable when I tried dealing with the Taurus "Customer Service" department.

There will never be a third opportunity for me.
 
My most regrettable purchase to date was the H&K USPc .40 for which I gave a hefty sum of 600.00 + shipping + FFL for.

To make a long story short after about 1500 rounds I traded it to someone for a used G19. Even at a 200.00 loss I believe I came out ahead.

Do you wonder why H&K charges so much for their pistols? Because they know that after you purchase one and witness their poor quality, unavailable parts, and complete lack of customer service it will be the last one you ever buy.

Just my opinion though, your experiences may differ.
 
Pre Kahr Auto-Ordnance M1911A1 in 10mm. It absolutely, positively would NOT feed...... What a piece of trash! :fire:

Yanus
 
Most regretted is S&W 1911SC. Bought it when it first hit the market, $750. Shot great, never jammed, and I was impressed by all the built-in features, but the workmanship was subpar, IMO. Grips kept lossening up, and it wasn't the screws, it was the "nuts" in the frame that the screws go into. After about 600 rounds, the inside of the end of the barrel started to "flake" outwards. There would be sharp little flakes of metal around the inside of the muzzle, protruding past the end of the barrel. I've seen other used SC1911's in shops, and they also exhibited this.

Sold it for $500 6 months after I bought it. (and was glad to be rid of it)

Have since become a Kimber fan, with no regrets at all.
 
Right now, it's my new Ruger 10/22. I bought it on the principle that everyone oughta have one, but I just don't find it all that fun to shoot. Slow to load, not particularly accurate, a little finicky about ammo, jams more than any of my other guns, etc. Don't really see the point in sinking more money into it just to make it do what my other rimfires already can. Maybe I'll learn the joy of tinkering with it later or it'll get better after a longer break-in period....
 
Here's the list of firearms I've purchased and sold...crappy ones first

· Witness P, .45 ACP - innaccurate, jam-o-matic
· FEG P9M 9x19mm - inaccurate, crappy trigger, loose slide
· S&W 1917 .45 ACP - sold during a stupid, low money period of my life...wish I had it back
· Browning Hi-Power P35 9mm - sold during a stupid, low money period of my life...wish I had it back
· AMT Longslide .45 ACP - nothing wrong with it, just didn't need it after I got out of pin shooting
· Ruger 10/22 .22 LR - sold during a stupid, low money period of my life...wish I had it back
· Ruger 44 Deerslayer .44 Mag - sold during a stupid, low money period of my life...wish I had it back
· Remington 700ADL .22-250 - nothing wrong with it, just didn't need it after I got out of varmit shooting
· Winchester 94 .30-30 - sold during a stupid, low money period of my life...wish I had it back
· Remington 870 20 ga - will eventually regret selling this
· HK G3 (Century C91), 7.62x51mm - nothing wrong with it, just didn't like the rifle itself
· Mauser 98k, 7.92x57mm - nothing wrong with it, just found a better specimen

And the only one I own that is not living up to my expectations is my CZ V-22 .22 LR upper for my M4-gery. The barrel is incredibly accurate but the magazines (I have 3) won't feed for crap.
 
I've generally been pretty happy with most of my guns, except for a Davis 22LR Derringer, bad, bad, bad.

You don't know the courage it took just to admit to buying that piece of crap.
 
Only really crappy gun I've had was a Mitchell Arms bolt rifle in .22 mag - would misfire (light strikes I guess) 1 or 2 rounds out of a 5-rd magfull, and shot patterns, not groups. Beyond that, nothing terrible, but a few iffy propositions:

1. Llama 1911 in 9x19mm - gun worked great. Only reason it's a 'regret' is because I paid WAY too much for it (young and dumb). Sold it when I needed $ in college - shoulda kept it.

2. NAA mini-revolver - neat gun but terribly inaccurate - couldn't reliably hit a 10" pie plate at THREE yards. Sold.

3. multiple Glock pistols - overall pretty good but the problem I had with (some of) them was a too-sensitive mag release button/spring. Sold all but 1.

4. Taurus Mil Pro - same problem as the Glocks (mag release too weak). Otherwise fantastic pistol. Sold.

5. Ruger P85 (I think - not totally sure on the model) - would not always go fully into battery, even when clean. Sold.
 
Kel-Tecs. Not once, but twice ... After getting suckered into buying a P-40, I just couldn't believe any manufacturer could actually produce such a piece of dung ... so I tried the P-11 ... and it was worse, both in terms of reliability and accuracy. Never before or since have I had pistols that experienced one part after another breaking ... or that wouldn't shoot unless cleaned after shooting only one mag ...
 
Iver Johnson Cadet 55 S, a .22LR eight-shot revolver. The serial number indicates it was made in the late 1940's. I bought it on a whim for $40, so it didn't really hurt financially. I saw it in the cabinet and thought it would be fun to clean it up and use it for plinking. WRONG!

It works, but there is too much rust inside to make it smooth. If I reduce the trigger pull weight (via the adjusting screw in the bottom of the grip) to make it shootable, the hammer won't fall with enough force to fire the cartridge. Increase it to make it fire and you have to deal with an 85 lb. trigger pull. And it would be more accurate if I threw it.

On the flip side, research showed it's the exact same model that an 18 year old Bosnian Serb named Gavrilo Princip used to assasinate Austrian Archduke Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo on June 28, 1914, which resulted in Word War I. So I guess it has some historical significance, but other than that, it's worthless.

Who says a .22 pistol can't change the world? :D
 
Charter Explorer II pistol. It's the handgun version of the AR-7 survival rifle. About the size a small briefcase, but without the ergnomics. No holster was ever made for it. Cap guns had better triggers. What was I thinking???? I guess the vaguely Broomhandle-like look took me down.
 
I bought a Remington 597 5 years ago with the nice laminated stock and the bull barrel. It was NIB and was a jamomatic that went back to Remington a few times and still fails one shot every magazine at least. It is so bad I will not sell to anyone nor give it to them in fear of it malfunctioning and causing injury to them. I found some fixes that matches my problems on another forum, which included replacing the extractor. I just did that this week and if it does not work, I see visions of a Ruger.

Edit to Add: Needless to say I will never buy another Remington product again.
 
Over a decade ago, I bought a used Charter Arms made AR-7 for $35. That POS wouldn't feed for anything and I happily sold it a few weeks later for $20.

The other mistake was a Jennings J-22 bought new about the same time. I fired 100-150 rounds through it and it became a jam-o-matic. I actually returned it to the store for a refund (as defective) and got the money back.

I learned a lesson on low quality firearms and avoid them now.
 
Most regretted is S&W 1911SC. Bought it when it first hit the market, $750. Shot great, never jammed, and I was impressed by all the built-in features, but the workmanship was subpar, IMO. Grips kept lossening up, and it wasn't the screws, it was the "nuts" in the frame that the screws go into. After about 600 rounds, the inside of the end of the barrel started to "flake" outwards. There would be sharp little flakes of metal around the inside of the muzzle, protruding past the end of the barrel. I've seen other used SC1911's in shops, and they also exhibited this.

Sold it for $500 6 months after I bought it. (and was glad to be rid of it)

Have since become a Kimber fan, with no regrets at all.

Thats funny. You get one guess who makes Kimber frames and slides.

P.S. It isn't Kimber
 
Archduke Ferdinand's assassination...

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Gavrilo Princip in prison cell in Theresienstadt
This picture was at one time believed to show Princip's arrest. It was later confirmed that it actually depicted the arrest of a passerby who tried to save Princip from being lynched. It is also interesting, that the passerby here shown, was a German by nationality.Gavrilo Princip (Гаврило Принцип) (July 25, 1894 – April 28, 1918) was a Bosnian Serb nationalist who killed Franz Ferdinand, Archduke of Austria, and his wife Countess Sophie in Sarajevo on June 28, 1914, prompting the Austrian action against Serbia that led to World War I. Born in Obljaj, Bosansko Grahovo, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Princip was a member of the group Young Bosnia (Mlada Bosna), and it is thought by some that he was a member of the Black Hand though this latter is not true.

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Assassination
On June 28, 1914 Gavrilo Princip participated in the assassination in Sarajevo. General Oskar Potiorek, Governor of the Austrian provinces of Bosnia-Herzegovina had invited Archduke Franz Ferdinand and Sophia to watch his troops on maneuvers. Franz Ferdinand knew that the visit would be dangerous. Just before 10 o'clock on Sunday, the royal couple arrived in Sarajevo by train. In the front car was Fehim Curcic, the Mayor of Sarajevo and Dr. Gerde, the city's Commissioner of Police. Franz Ferdinand and Sophia were in the second car with Oskar Potiorek and Count von Harrach. The car's top was rolled back in order to allow the crowds a good view of its occupants, Franz Ferdinand and his wife.

At 10:10 A.M., when the six car procession passed the central police station, a nineteen year old Black Hand terrorist named Nedeljko Cabrinovic hurled a hand grenade at the archduke's car. After Cabrinovic's bomb missed the Archduke's car, five other conspirators, including Gavrilo Princip, failed to get an opportunity to attack because of the heavy crowds. To avoid capture, Nedjelko swallowed a cyanide pill and jumped into the nearby river, but was hauled out and detained by police. It was beginning to look like the assassination would fail. However, Franz Ferdinand decided to go to the hospital and visit the victims of Cabrinovic's bomb. In order to avoid the city centre, General Oskar Potiorek decided that the royal car should travel straight along the Appel Quay to the Sarajevo Hospital. However, Potiorek forgot to inform the driver, Franz Urban, about this decision. On the way to the hospital, Urban took a right turn into Franz Joseph Street.

Gavrilo Princip had gone into Moritz Schiller's cafe for a sandwich, having apparently given up, when he spotted Ferdinand's car as it drove past, having taken the wrong turn. After realizing the mistake, the driver put his foot on the brake, and began to back up. In doing so he moved slowly past the waiting Gavrilo Princip. Gavrilo Princip stepped forward, drew his gun, and at a distance of about five feet, fired several times into the car. Franz Ferdinand was hit in the neck and Sophia in the abdomen. Sophia, who was later found to be with child at the time of her death, died instantly. Ferdinand, who in disbelief of her death insisted that she wake up, fainted within five minutes and died soon after.

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Capture and imprisonment
Princip tried to kill himself first by ingesting cyanide, and then with his gun, but he vomited the poison (which Cabrinovic had also done, leading the police to believe the group had been deceived and bought a much weaker poison), and the gun was wrestled from his hand before he had a chance to fire another shot. Having been too young at the time of the assassination (19) to face the death penalty, Princip received the maximum sentence of twenty years in prison, where he was held in harsh conditions worsened by the war. He died of tuberculosis of the bone on April 28, 1918 at Theresienstadt.

The gun used by Princip was a Browning M 1910 semi-automatic pistol in 7.65×17mm (.32 ACP) caliber. It was recently found and recovered in the home of an Austrian Jesuit family, and is now in display at the Vienna Museum of Military History. The second bullet fired by Princip, killing Ferdinand, is stored as a museum exhibit in the Konopište Castle near the town of Benešov, Czech Republic.
 
Well, this was a few years ago when I got this information. I don't know what I did with it, I'll have to dig around and see if I can find it again. If my information turns out to be wrong, don't worry, I already said the gun is worthless anyway. It's not like I'm trying to pass it off as a rare piece of history and sell it to a collector for a million dollars, so it's not necessary to throw it in my face like that.

By the way, welcome to the forum.
 
CETME .308 battle rifle. It was an earlier one that was supposed to be the better of the batches. Either it needs broken in (bought 4 yrs ago) or it's a boat anchor. Bought different mags last year but still haven't tried them yet. First semi-auto rifle I ever purchased that FTF or FTE. Never buy another one.
 
Davis derringer in .22 Magnum. It functioned flawlessly. Just an utterly useless tool for anything. I cut it up in pieces and threw it out.

K
 
A M-1 Garand with a C.A.I. receiver. It cost me about $450 total. I suppose I could use it as a parts gun for the Springfield one i plan on buying in the future.
 
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