Whats the Skinny on Glock Gen4 Still Bad?

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My weekly range guns for the last year or better have all been Glock Gen4s. On average, I put 200 rounds of cast lead handloads downrange every weekend, and almost all of that for the last year or better has gone through a single G17. The rounds that didn't go thru the G17 went downrange courtesy of a G20 or G21 or G22. All of my Gen4's are less than 18 months old, and use stock magazines and stock bits excepting a Ghost Edge connector and Heinie/XS sights. I clean my range guns maybe every 3-4 months or so - sometimes longer when I'm busy with other projects, and sometimes shorter when I'm playing with backstrap choices.

The ONLY failures of any kind that I've experienced in the last year have been failures to chamber a batch of oversized rounds (9x19 sizing die wiggled out and it took me a bit to notice). That's literally *IT*. I've had ZERO failures to feed, failures to fire, failures to extract, or failures to eject. Ejection on the G22 and G20 is, um, vigorous with some of my handloads and I will sometimes get BTF (caused as much by the brass bouncing off the lane dividers as anything else) as the power goes up for a given load. However, I really don't consider BTF to be a failure as much as an annoyance and my experience is that I can eliminate BTF largely though ammo/load selection.

I know that it's popular in some circles to poke at the Gen4's. I am certain that some percentage of folk that bought one have wound up having an issue, since statistically that's just gonna happen across a manufacturing run - I'm not going to take away anything from anyone's direct personal experience. I also know that the later Gen4's got a different ejector than the first ones, to cure FTE issues, so early adopters of the pistol no doubt have experienced less reliable operation than I.

But my point is simple - in my experiences with a number of Gen4's bought within the last 18 months, they have been as rock solid and appliance-like in their reliability as I expect and demand.
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PS: My favorites are the G17 and G21. They seem best tailored to the recoil characteristics of the rounds that they shoot. Conversely, I find the G22 and G20 to be snappier than needed, especially the G22. The G23/19/30/29/26/27 are all OK, but the bigger grip of the full size models simply fits my hand better.

Y'all have fun out there. :)
 
Really??? Over??? Yesterday at my range an advanced Glock armorer brought a bunch of new Glocks for folks to try. Says he is unaware of the BTF and ejection issues. One guy who has went through the whole thing with a G19 fired one of the new G19's. The Glock armorer watched as out of a mag of 10 rounds one nailed the guy in the safety glases.
Another said he took his G19 with over a thousand rounds to a GSSF event. Didn't believe in the BTF thing. After a couple hundred rounds it started beating him about the head and face. He switched to his new G17 which proceeded to do the same thing. The problems are not gone. The newer guns with the fixes are better. But it is still hit or miss.
The fact that someone gets one that doesn't have problems (or maybe not yet) does not negate the fact their are still lots of folks having problems.
Most now seem to be the cheap MIM extractors being either not formed properly and don't fit. Or they wear out after x number of rounds. I've seen some of the many new shooters at my range that don't even realize their guns shold not be beating them about the head at regular intervals.
Everytime someone has asked over the past couple of years if the late model Glock problems are gone people jump in and say yes I've had no problems. Sorry although better they are still out there. Fact based on weekly observation of said problem.
 
HexHead;



You say that now, but you won't like it one bit when 150,000 ex-Californians move to Tennessee and start voting. Just look at the politics in Oregon, Nevada, Colorado, and Arizona to see how that works. Especially Colorado.



-John


Oregon is certainly dominated by the left leaning politicians in the Portland area, but we quietly have a gun ownership rate substantially above the national average, and nearly 1 in 15 eligible adults here has a CHL. The secret is that the gun debate isn't all "lib vs conservative". There is a generation of what my brother calls "2A liberals" coming up who are very pro gun. WA is similar.
 
I'm 3 for 3 with Gen 4 G19. Traded my week-old number 3 today. Sick of brass hitting my head. In done with 19s now......until I'm not.
 
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