Cyborg
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Where I grew up when somebody tried to make someone do something they didn't want to do they generally replied with 2 words "Make me!". That or with the two words summarized by the single-digit salute. My question is on the order of an absolutely WORST worst case scenario.
Posit that congress passes a really noxious, "How the FRAK can you even give lip service to the 2A and support that piece of organic fertilizer!?" piece of legislation and - as he almost certainly would - Barama signed it. Remember, IMS the dems have their greatest majority pretty much in my lifetime (5 3/4 decades or there abouts) in both houses INCLUDING what may very well turn out to be a fillibuster-proof senate.
Now, 1) what could be done to stop our soon-to-be AG from expediting inforcement of the new law? Is it possible to get some sort of emergency injunctive relief from SCOTUS?
2) Assuming SCOTUS struck down the new law, what mechanism exists to force the AG to discontinue enforcement of said law? Unless I am mistaken, Law Enforcement is a function of the Executive branch of government and (after POTUS) the AG is the chief LEO in the land. What is to stop the AG from just ordering the FBI, BATF etc. to keep confiscating guns?
Who can make the AG obey the law and the SCOTUS? I don't see impeachment as a viable threat since the same people who passed the law in the first place would be the ones to try the case - assuming they passed a bill of impeachment in the first place?
These are - for the most part - ideologues. True believers almost to a man (OK to a "person"). If leftist judges have no problem utterly steping outside their boundaries and MAKING law - silly me I thought they were only supposed to INTERPRET it - what is there to stop a seriously leftist ideologue of an AG from just pushing forward with the gun roundup DESPITE the law being struck down?
Oh, and I for one have absolutely no faith that when the left has a majority on SCOTUS they will hesitate to reverse any/all "bad" decisions made previously. I mean if they can base decisions on EUROPEAN law as opposed to AMERICAN law, how can we trust them not to be able to perform the mental gymnastics to be able to reverse an earlier decision?
I ask this NOT to start a fight but only to learn. I figure we gotta have at least a couple of lawyers here. In practical terms, what is to stop them if conscience and honor does not?
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"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. "
C. S. Lewis
Posit that congress passes a really noxious, "How the FRAK can you even give lip service to the 2A and support that piece of organic fertilizer!?" piece of legislation and - as he almost certainly would - Barama signed it. Remember, IMS the dems have their greatest majority pretty much in my lifetime (5 3/4 decades or there abouts) in both houses INCLUDING what may very well turn out to be a fillibuster-proof senate.
Now, 1) what could be done to stop our soon-to-be AG from expediting inforcement of the new law? Is it possible to get some sort of emergency injunctive relief from SCOTUS?
2) Assuming SCOTUS struck down the new law, what mechanism exists to force the AG to discontinue enforcement of said law? Unless I am mistaken, Law Enforcement is a function of the Executive branch of government and (after POTUS) the AG is the chief LEO in the land. What is to stop the AG from just ordering the FBI, BATF etc. to keep confiscating guns?
Who can make the AG obey the law and the SCOTUS? I don't see impeachment as a viable threat since the same people who passed the law in the first place would be the ones to try the case - assuming they passed a bill of impeachment in the first place?
These are - for the most part - ideologues. True believers almost to a man (OK to a "person"). If leftist judges have no problem utterly steping outside their boundaries and MAKING law - silly me I thought they were only supposed to INTERPRET it - what is there to stop a seriously leftist ideologue of an AG from just pushing forward with the gun roundup DESPITE the law being struck down?
Oh, and I for one have absolutely no faith that when the left has a majority on SCOTUS they will hesitate to reverse any/all "bad" decisions made previously. I mean if they can base decisions on EUROPEAN law as opposed to AMERICAN law, how can we trust them not to be able to perform the mental gymnastics to be able to reverse an earlier decision?
I ask this NOT to start a fight but only to learn. I figure we gotta have at least a couple of lawyers here. In practical terms, what is to stop them if conscience and honor does not?
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"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. "
C. S. Lewis