Whats your opinion on Walther p22 and its stopping capability?

[meanmrmustard]

Oh, for crying out loud - I was talking about that particular instance against racoons - the only first hand knowledge I have on 22lr stopping ability.

Context, man! Context! - go ahead and re-read it.

What is it with you guys and these raccoons? Do I need to take care of them for you?

 

[Manco]

Oh, for crying out loud - I was talking about that particular instance against racoons - the only first hand knowledge I have on 22lr stopping ability.

Context, man! Context! - go ahead and re-read it.

With .22 LR, even racoons are large enough to make load selection matter, as I think your example involving the Velocitor not exiting adult specimens illustrates. Relating this back to the main topic, load selection matters still more with human targets.

 

[Kiln]

I suppose. Moving might über difficult, static prolly not. But, if it's a dead horse we are beating (or rather shooting in this case) then it should be an easy shot. Walnuts are large legumes.

It's nice that there's no middle ground on this thread: You'll either use .22 LR or ya won't. I would, but that's a cartridge argument. As for the platform, I personally would NOT use the P22.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've books to shoot.

I may be wrong but didn't I have a long drawn out argument with you about the quality and reliability of the Walther P22 a looong time ago? When you first got your P22 you were very positive about it. Finally seen it for what it is eh?

Personally if I'd known about all the issues and how unreliable the P22 is, I wouldn't own one.

 

[meanmrmustard]

I may be wrong but didn't I have a long drawn out argument with you about the quality and reliability of the Walther P22 a looong time ago? When you first got your P22 you were very positive about it. Finally seen it for what it is eh?

Personally if I'd known about all the issues and how unreliable the P22 is, I wouldn't own one.

You did! I sold off the other gun too! Thanks for talking sense into me. It's sale funded an SR22, that is in another league entirely. So, thanks for that.

 

[meanmrmustard]

With .22 LR, even racoons are large enough to make load selection matter, as I think your example involving the Velocitor not exiting adult specimens illustrates. Relating this back to the main topic, load selection matters still more with human targets.

Seriously, where are you guys at that you aren't killing coons with .22s! Our coon hunters in town use Mark IIIs and Buckmarks to knock them outta trees when the dogs tree em. They're dead before the hit the ground! Aim properly!

 

[mooner]

If I want them dead right there, they are.

I am ridding pests - not hunting them. If they happen to run off and die in the woods somewhere that is perfectly fine with me. A couple body shots ensures a reasonably quick ending - but not so quick they can't find a better place to die than my yard.

My comment was directed to the gentleman that thought a raccoon needed to be shot in the butt to run off from a shot from a 22.

 

[Manco]

Seriously, where are you guys at that you aren't killing coons with .22s! Our coon hunters in town use Mark IIIs and Buckmarks to knock them outta trees when the dogs tree em. They're dead before the hit the ground!

Living in a suburb currently, I haven't been shooting at any racoons myself, but my goal here is to maximize the opportunities for effective shot placement--that is, to create larger and additional areas on the body in which shots would be effective. This is what choosing more effective loads is all about, and in turn using more effective loads increases one's odds of success.

Aim properly!

Aiming properly at a treed critter is a lot easier than combat shooting against armed human aggressors (the presumed target the OP has in mind), and if shot placement is so critical for the former, then it's even a lot more critical for the latter. My point has been that deeper-penetrating loads are more effective on larger creatures (than, say, a squirrel) because they may be able to reach vital structures, such as the spinal column and aorta, from a greater variety of angles, and therefore offer a greater probability of being effective, especially when careful shot placement is difficult.

 

[meanmrmustard]

Living in a suburb currently, I haven't been shooting at any racoons myself, but my goal here is to maximize the opportunities for effective shot placement--that is, to create larger and additional areas on the body in which shots would be effective. This is what choosing more effective loads is all about, and in turn using more effective loads increases one's odds of success.



Aiming properly at a treed critter is a lot easier than combat shooting against armed human aggressors (the presumed target the OP has in mind), and if shot placement is so critical for the former, then it's even a lot more critical for the latter. My point has been that deeper-penetrating loads are more effective on larger creatures (than, say, a squirrel) because they may be able to reach vital structures, such as the spinal column and aorta, from a greater variety of angles, and therefore offer a greater probability of being effective, especially when careful shot placement is difficult.

Youre telling me things I already know. But when a few guys are talking about their Terminator coons and how difficult they are to dispatch, it gets me laughing.

Coon, squirrel, wild dog: Doesnt matter what pest it is, shoot it in the right spot. I dont change my killing loads based on the pest, as it is just that, a pest.

 

[meanmrmustard]

You spoke your mind, and I mine. I'll use a .22lr if I have too. There's better choices, but for recoil adverse, elderly, or the petite amongst us there may not be. Better a rimfire than just a wing and a prayer I say.

 

[Certaindeaf]

It's probably pretty close to any other .22 pistol of like barrel length. go figure.
If you needed to "stop" a mouse, make sure to wear a cup, some gaiters and a diaper.

 

[TimboKhan]

Allrighty, this one is done.