When does the panic buying commence?

When does the panic buying commence?

  • Pfft. I'm already stocked up.

    Votes: 125 36.8%
  • Tomorrow if there is an adverse ruling in Heller vs. D.C.

    Votes: 83 24.4%
  • After Obama elected POTUS

    Votes: 97 28.5%
  • After actual AWB II is passed by Congress

    Votes: 32 9.4%
  • I'm a Fudd, I could care less

    Votes: 7 2.1%
  • After I sell some body parts

    Votes: 23 6.8%
  • I'm up to my eyes in debt - can't afford to

    Votes: 61 17.9%

  • Total voters
    340
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Could we stop using the word "Fudd" please? Why do we need to try to create enemies within our own community?

I'm already trying to stock up. I've been panic buying for almost a year.
 
I see a graph where one axis is "time left to election" and the other is "state of the economy". The two interrelate. Personally, I plan to make a hyperbola, I started buying early, but now I'm letting off while the economy worsens to have enough free cash in the darkest days to get the most best stuff I can afford.
 
I am buying stuff not so much as a SHTF stash as much as I'd rather have my hard work in something other than dollars right now. I bought a few guns, put about a thousand dollars into Euros, and seriously am thinking about stockpiling coins. When a gallon of gas costs $6 the amount of crime and unemployment (of suburban skilled workers that cannot "afford" to work because of distance to the jobs they are trained for) combined with food prices might make things a little dicey. Not so much a politics thing as much as a service based society that can't sustain itself without producing its own food and fuel thing. Worst case scenario for me is having to work on the family farm because my engineering degree won't bring me the things I need. (when you can't get food who cares how efficient you can make a factory that makes non essential goods?)
 
I don't see where Heller will change anything in the short term unless you live in DC. Obama has to get legislation through Congress first, but is doable with a Democratic majority. You folks worry too much.
 
A positive Heller verdict will go a long way to making those who want ban all guns to take pause and realize that this sets up lots of court losses for them. Yes they will redouble their efforts to other areas but at least they would have to regroup for once.

Chris
 
I think when Heller 'Pops', regardless of the pos or neg for RBKA--we will see a 'bump' in 'panic' buying. The spin doctors will be pushing both sides' buttons to fear (fnord) and spend some green.

For me personally, I am in a CONSTANT state of low level panic;
I have children and this is an imperfect and $%#&@ dangerous world.

So when I buy that extra box of 7.62 x 39, or bulk milk box of .22, or bag of zip ties, ziploc bags, break-off razor knives...
and (G-d love 'em) Ohio Blue Tip Strike Anywhere Matches..

I feel better about tomorrow-- for a few moments. Then the cresendo begins anew.

(the Mrs.) "Why are there kitchen matches in cabinets and drawers all over the house?"

(me) "yes...."

(her) "Oh, ------. You're getting to THAT point again--just SAY it--you want to buy another gun?"

(me) "Yeh, but AMMO, too!".

(her) "H-O-W M-U-C-H?"

(me) "It's for the KIDS--we have enough"
 
I expect the decision to be tightly focused and limited to the DC case. I expect a pro-individual rights ruling. The case is about owning guns not carrying guns within DC. A positive ruling will be very good for DC residents who are concerned about crime in their neighborhoods. We do have a right to defend ourselves. It is a step in the right direction and may affect places that make ownership quite difficult or not at all; NYC, Chicago, San Francisco. More lawsuits will follow.
 
Tomorrow at 11am Est, I will buy either a panic or celebratory gun. Not sure which though. ; )
 
I'm finishing the deal on one tomorrow, but it's merely fortuitous timing. I don't believe that there will ever be a time when people will start "panic buying" guns.
 
The only thing I'm stocking up on is .22 rimfire, since I can't afford to shoot anything else nowadays regardless of any legislative worries.

jm
 
All of this has made me suprisingly vocal on the job site (Aka-Work). I have discussed this with many guys, pro and anti alike (Although construction workers seem to fall in the pro-gun catagory :D). I will have my laptop tumed into scotusblog at 10:00 tomorrow. There is a group of guys that will be relying on me for an answer on how it goes. There wont be to much "Work" going on until 10:30 or so. Then there will either be celebration :D or the remainder of the day swearing and organizing a 1 million ARMED man march on D.C. :cuss:.

We tend to be better at demolition than construction anyway! :evil:
 
"Prudent Panic..."

Great name for a middle-aged rock band. :D

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Where's the "Heller will side with RKBA and Americans Won't Vote for that Obama Creature" option?

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My Prudent Panic to expand my rifle collection began around 1998 when I started paying attention to what the AWB and all that stuff Clinton was spouting actually meant. For years, I didn't pay attention to it all. I was Elmer Fudd. I had my huntin' rifle, my .22, a couple shotguns and my .45 pistol - only because I knew they wanted to eventually outlaw pistols and I better get one while I could.

Having my 'druthers, I would have gladly stored my pistol down at the local hardware store - un-bought until I had a use for one. But politicians eliminated that option.

My Prudent Panic to fight for RKBA and buy a few extra guns began when I realized three things:

1. I now had kids. They need me to protect them. More importantly...they need to grow up with the means and knowledge to protect themselves and pass that on to THEIR kids.

2. I read "Atlas Shrugged" and realized that our civilization is just a few bad politicians away from flushing it all down the toilet.

3. My wife and I talked about SHTF scenarios - "The Day After", "The Trigger Effect", "Mad Max", "Red Dawn", "The Stand", "Y2K", etc. These all had a whole new meaning now that we had kids and we were suddenly no longer high speed/low drag.

Prudent Panic. Guns are NOT a good "investment" per se. But just like gold...guns are never worth nothing.

More to the point. Imagine you are trading goods in a post-"end of the world as we know it" scenario. Or you are just minding your own business, but someone shows up at your home and wants to "trade" with you. There is no controlling legal authority. It's the wild west and there ain't no Marshall. You have an abundance of food/gold/medicine/whatever - but no gun. Your trading partner has an extra gun.

Who do you think walks away with a good supply of food/gold/medicine/whatever? One way or another.

I prefer to be a guy with an extra gun or two.
 
Stocking up on food isn't as important as stocking up renewable food resources. Buy seeds, and if you possibly can, land to sow them in.

-Sans Authoritas
 
Grimjaw says:
The only thing I'm stocking up on is .22 rimfire, since I can't afford to shoot anything else nowadays regardless of any legislative worries.

jm

There is nothing wrong with that at all. Bunch of internet people are stocking 5,000 rds. of this and at least 1,000 rds. per caliber of that.

There is somewhat of a flaw in reasoning in this IMO. If you need to reload more than fifty rounds in less than three minutes of a firefight (without suppressing cover fire because you are all alone in a SHTF scenario,) you are in trouble. This is a video game scenario, NOT real life or reaql SHTF life. Zombies are NOT real guys and gals.

However, if you are capable of selecting your shots and conserving boolets. Along with setting some traps and lines. A twenty-two would be a fine counterpart along with a few thousand rounds of good std velocity ammo.
 
Stocking up on food isn't as important as stocking up renewable food resources. Buy seeds, and if you possibly can, land to sow them in.

Most people have no idea how to start a garden much less how to preserve their harvest. People ask me all the time how and what to do.
 
The next ban...

...will have no "Grandfather" clauses. The Dems learned their lesson from the last ban.
This time around it will be, "Turn everything in. Weapons, magazines, parts, uppers, lowers, receivers, barrels, everything."
 
I agree with having started about a year ago. Both with an increase in reloading components, and some additional long guns. It seems that every time I think I have enough I reevaluate and find I need more. Maybe that is how it goes.
 
With the war and the horrible economic situation icing the cake, as things get more trying--people will want to believe in the insanity of despots. They will believe in ANYTHING that allows them to not adapt their own behavior--foolish as it may be--and have the 'problem' solved for them.

My secret terror is that I am in their number.

Don't forget BBs and pellets for that airgun, too! And oil, and critical spare parts.

And salt--we all need to buy a stock of NaCl, too.

And a Dietz lantern (or five) with extra wicks and oil stocked.
 
I think the prudent individual prepares himself, in advance, for an emergency. This will mean different things to different folks, but to have the ability to defend oneself and one's family would seem to be the prudent thing to do for any decent American.
 
With the war and the horrible economic situation icing the cake...

What, exactly is our "horrible economic situation???". If you understand history at all...we are living in a golden age.

Our biggest (apparent) problems in the USA are that...

1. Poor people are eating too much
2. Rich people are drinking too much imported bottled water from non-eco-friendly bottles
3. Our gasoline has hit the point where it costs 25% more than last year to drive wherever the heck you want in our free society

THE HORROR!!!!!

Please refer only to your own personal situation. Not something you saw on "the news". There are always horrible economic situations to film for the news. Individual people always have problems. They also have triumphs, if they have FREEDOM. Funny that triumphs are so rarely filmed and so often sued.

Other people's "horrible economic situations" just depend on when the news media chooses to document them. Heck, I personally had some relatively HORRIBLE investment results in 2001. No news reporter ever asked me why I chose to stick it through with the Vanguard Fund.

BTW - We have a pretty strong economy that can withstand $4 gasoline without a recession.

Maybe you did not notice. We have not had a recession. Despite the media's hard work.

I feel so good about this economy that I bought a gun today.
 
You obviously don't listen to his show.

Great minds think alike! Or should I just say Dittos! 3 hours a day everyday, plus podcast, plus Hannity, and top it off with Levin. :D

I think to many people have "panic buying" and "prudent buying" mixed up. You go to WalMart to buy ammo and the clerk tells you prices are going up next week so you get a couple extra boxes now. That's prudent, but to the guy walking by sees 6 boxes and determines "panic buying" due to the recent newsreports. Just in the last month I picked up a Mosin 91/30, a Steyr M95, Marlin 917, and in a couple days will pick up two little .25's Is that panic buying, nope, the rifles were on sale. But to others 5 guns in a month is panicing.
 
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