I live in California, so I cant go out and buy a normal AR. They only sell California Legal AR's and they are expensive. I had a Mini-14, I sold it a few yrs ago cause the accuracy was horrible, like a 8"group at 100yrds. Now they have the New Mini's and I was curious of which would b better, the new MINI-14 or a Kel Tec .223. Or a Saiga in .223. Now I have a few hi cap mags for a MINI-14 that I kept cause I figured I would get one 1 day. BUt i dont know how much the Mini has improved. I am not looking for a super accurate target rifle. but something that is decent and reliable. Now I never had any problems with the Mini-14 just the crappy accuracy. So I dont know any thing about the Saiga or the Kel Tec. I just know the Kel Tec is pretty popular. But dont know about he accuracy or the reliability since its mostly plastic. And I know absolutly nothing about the Saiga. But the Saiga and the Kel Tec are cheaper in cost than the Mini and I dont have much money to spend so I am trying to get the best deal. Thanks for any responses....