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Which .223 to buy

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by FishPro, Apr 10, 2010.

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  1. FishPro

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    I live in California, so I cant go out and buy a normal AR. They only sell California Legal AR's and they are expensive. I had a Mini-14, I sold it a few yrs ago cause the accuracy was horrible, like a 8"group at 100yrds. Now they have the New Mini's and I was curious of which would b better, the new MINI-14 or a Kel Tec .223. Or a Saiga in .223. Now I have a few hi cap mags for a MINI-14 that I kept cause I figured I would get one 1 day. BUt i dont know how much the Mini has improved. I am not looking for a super accurate target rifle. but something that is decent and reliable. Now I never had any problems with the Mini-14 just the crappy accuracy. So I dont know any thing about the Saiga or the Kel Tec. I just know the Kel Tec is pretty popular. But dont know about he accuracy or the reliability since its mostly plastic. And I know absolutly nothing about the Saiga. But the Saiga and the Kel Tec are cheaper in cost than the Mini and I dont have much money to spend so I am trying to get the best deal. Thanks for any responses....
     
  2. Carter

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    I've shot the new ruger tactical mini 14 and I was tagging a 6 inch tall steel plate at hundred yards away no problem. The accuracy seems to be very good and I was running wolf through it, not match grade ammo. Kel Tec is good, but I'd say the mini would be a better choice.
     
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    We could go on and on about reliability, cost, accuracy, etc.... But since you already own mini 14 mags, get the mini.
     
  4. benEzra

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    If I were in your situation, and already owned full-capacity magazines, I'd get the mini, no question. In California, those magazines would be gold, IMO.

    I actually did the same thing you did---I had an old 188-series Ranch Rifle, circa 1989 or 1990, that shot a best-ever group of 5.5" at 100 yards, from a rest and rear bag, and I eventually sold it because I was dissatisfied with the accuracy. But the new mini's do appear to be more accurate than the old model, based on what their owners are saying.
     
  5. ArmedBear

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    The Saiga in stock form (i.e. CA-legal form) handles as poorly as any gun I've EVER held. The balance is way off.

    The Mini is a neat carbine. I still have mine, despite the poor accuracy, since I just like the way it feels in the hands.
     
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    The Saiga is a reliable, fairly accurate rifle in .223. I did the pistol grip conversion on mine and added a NATO length stock, so it handles more like a traditional AK. I went with the Saiga because I read too many complaints about the accuracy of the Mini-14 declining as the barrel heated up. This is NOT an issue with the Saiga.
     
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    Unless you are dead set on a semi auto, you might want to look at a Howa 1500 in 223. Bolt action and very accurate.
     
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