Kachok said:
Mr Smith 1.3 MOA is hardly a tight shooter by modern standards, I would not consider anything less then a 1/2 MOA shooter to be exceptionally tight shooter. I have never shot a Mosin that grouped any tighter then 2" but to be totally fair I don't handload 7.62x54R like I do my Savages and my Tikka so that is not a completely level playing field.
The Mosin is fun and a great value but hardly a precision rifle for 600yd shooting.
He didn't say anything about competing. I figure if he's plinking for fun it he might enjoy a WWII rifle.
I mean, heck, a Remington 700 with tactical mil-dot 'scope, improved trigger, magnafluxed match bull barrel, tac stock or varmint stock, etc would be the thing to get if he's doing serious shooting at that range.
See, I have a .22 squirrel rifle that will print the same elongated hole all day long with subsonic CCI. I don't even have to use match. I call it my squirrel rifle because I use it for head shots when the leaves are off and they can see a long ways. It has a 20MOA mount on it, too, and I've shot it to something like 120 yards with around 3/4" groups. I disremember for certain what they were, but that thing is a tackdriver.
Got so I started using bulk ammo to handicap myself. I'm still sitting at 1.06MOA with CCI Blazer at 100 yards.
But inside that range, there's no challenge. The equipment has taken the fun out of it after a few rounds.
It's way fun to bust clays with open sights at 25 or 50 yards, or soda crackers, or whatever. That's when the old single shot comes out, or the 1911, or whatever.
When I posted that, I wasn't thinking competition. I wasn't thinking hunting, or anything but plinking. There are a few different rifles I would recommend for those, McMillan and M28/76 (competition) and such. Custom Remington, or my favorite, a push-feed M70. (I'm a fan of rear cartridge support.)
Those last two especially can be had used for under $600 around here.
I just wasn't thinking along those lines. I was thinking more fun than challenge at this point. Upgrade later after he learns to shoot that far and use the precision inherent in those newer rifles.
That's just me though. I grew up on 'scopes and am only now finding the fun in iron sights! Heck, my dad is an engineer, or was before retiring. He found a way to mount a 'scope on my Daisy BB gun!
Sorry for the long-winded post. I tend to get like that after being up all night.
Regards,
Josh