Which entry target .22? M41, Sig, Ruger, other?

[Handy]

Well, if we're talking about Beretta 87s and S&W 41s, how about the Benelli 95 or Baikal IZH35? At $400 to $700, these are true competition .22s with the sculptured grip, adjustable trigger and full length sights, like you see in Olympic rapid fire.

Not saying you need a Benelli or IZH, I think the $200 Rugers and Buckmarks can do the job. Just another neat option. I think EAA distributes them.

It's funny the California is blocking even Olympic target pistols. You might want to check with them.



No mention of the much heralded Colt Cadet of several years ago? Shocking.

 

[rick_reno]

target 22

If you go with the Ruger, swapping trigger/sear/hammer are things you should be able to do yourself. Those are the three parts you should replace. The Rugers can be a bit intiminating to take apart/reassemble - but just go slow and you'll be fine. If you get stuck - post something here, there are lot of folks that have done it.
Most people "scope" their guns with one of the red dot scopes. The Ultradot scopes http://www.ultradotusa.com/ are popular, I've used Ultradot and Adco. I perfer Adco, the dot is easier for me to see. People seem to go to dot scopes when their abiity to clearly see iron sights goes away, your need to use one these might depend on your age. The Ruger can be scoped, it's not a problem.
I believe it's useful to learn to shoot a pistol with iron sights. Pistol shooting is simply sight allignment and trigger control. Once you master those you'll be shooting good - it's sometimes easier for a beginner to learn with iron sights. The Army Markmanship Training Guide has a lot of good info on pistol shooting, I'd recommend reading it. You can find it - and a LOT more info here on pistol shooting http://www.bullseyepistol.com/

I'd have to second Chris on the M41's. The recent examples I've seen were problematic and needed some tinkering to get them working right. I know people who have sent them back to S&W with a "You fix it or keep it" letters.

Another pistol combination that hasn't been mentioned is a 1911 pistol with a 22 conversion. There's really only one conversion to consider, Marvel. Go here http://www.marvelprecision.com/ and look at their targets - these things really work as good as they say they do.

 

[rick_reno]

Kalif. and what they allow

Handy posted "It's funny the California is blocking even Olympic target pistols. You might want to check with them."

While Kalif. cetainly has some restrictive gun legislation, they aren't blocking Olympic target pistols, AB2793 (chaptered 9/26/02) allows a long list of target pistols including Benelli, Hammerli, Pardini, Morini, etc. You can read the whole thing here

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?WAISdocID=3150117288+1+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve

The list of target pistols is somewhere near the end of the bill.

 

[Pat S]

I think as many here that the MKII is a good entry level gun. My main issue with it is the trigger. I had the Volquartzen(sp?) kit installed in mine and although it was a vast improvement over stock it still has too much creep in it which is very distracting in slow fire. The sear gets cruded up quickly also, leading to a gritty trigger with creep. I've shot a M41 and a High Standard and both had outstanding triggers with a clean, crisp break. You may also want to look into a good used older High Standard target model or a used SW 41 as I think I will do before bullseye season starts up again. I choose not to buy new SW products at this time. Until such time as they officially renounce the HUD agreement signed by the previous owners and publicly state that they will never honor it or anything like it.


Stay Safe, Pat S

 

[Sactown]

If you're looking for a Kali approved pistol, the IZH and the Sig Trailside are not on the list. I haver two rugers, a 5.5" bull and govt comp target model. You can guess what I recommend.

 

[MoNsTeR]

I have a MkII Competition and a Trailside Competition.
Oddly enough, I don't compete
Anyway I much prefer the Trailside. Better trigger, better sights, better balance, and the grips are to die for. But I got mine for a steal ($450), on top of being impossible to find this model sells for $700 new.

The Rugers are certainly accurate enough, but the triggers aren't up to snuff, and the sights are so-so. Seems like the least-hassle route would be the M41.

 

[standingbear]

i have found my ruger slabside competition model to be more than accurate.the 41s are nice but too expensive for my budget where every dollar counts.there is a ruger takedown kit that can be purchased to make assembly and dissassembly quick and easy.

 

[Sprout]

Thanks again for the help everybody! Looks like the Sig isn't safe enough for the children. I guess match-grade .22s are the new gang weapon of choice, or something So it looks like it's down ot the Ruger and the Smith. We'll check them out when we've got time--I'm in Bar-Bri hell right now--and I'll let y'all know which he picks.

Thanks again. You guys are an invaluable resourse, and I really appreciate it. Thanks.

 

[munk]

Hey! I've got a question for you .22 gurus: I"m getting a Buckmark Silohette with the 14" heavy barrel and weaver rail.

It's costing me 250.00 and it is as new. From a dear friend, of course, otherwise it would have to be hot or stolen from a widow.


What say you?

Why don't we see more Buckmarks out there? I'm going prarrie dog hunting with mine.

munk