Which Garand?
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Anyone contemplating purchasing a M1 garand from the CMP should access their website to check the qualifications needed to purchase a rifle. You do not necessarily have to be a member of a CMP affilated gun club to purchase one. Most veterans and seniors qualify to purchase. Been there and done that! 
You could order a SA an get a HRA barrel....you could order a HRA an get
a SA barrel....I've heard often that the HRA are just a tad better with their
barrels.... I have a SA an HRA with HRA barrels.....now I just got a CMP
Service Grade Winchester with a 5-50 SA barrel....all my Garands have a
MW 2.0.....heres my Winchester after I stripped the stain from the CMP
Birch stock an put my own stain on an one coat so far of PTO...
a SA barrel....I've heard often that the HRA are just a tad better with their
barrels.... I have a SA an HRA with HRA barrels.....now I just got a CMP
Service Grade Winchester with a 5-50 SA barrel....all my Garands have a
MW 2.0.....heres my Winchester after I stripped the stain from the CMP
Birch stock an put my own stain on an one coat so far of PTO...
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Orlando...give that barrel at least 200 rds before giving up on it, an new
wood takes awhile to settle to...also, everytime you take the stock off
an back on it takes awhile to settle back in...my WWII SA with HRA barrel
with MW 2.0 with HXP 72' ammo with new wood settled in an I was hitting
with open sights out to 540 yds. Hit 2 out of 8 times a 9" steel triangle...the guys
at the range marveled.....
wood takes awhile to settle to...also, everytime you take the stock off
an back on it takes awhile to settle back in...my WWII SA with HRA barrel
with MW 2.0 with HXP 72' ammo with new wood settled in an I was hitting
with open sights out to 540 yds. Hit 2 out of 8 times a 9" steel triangle...the guys
at the range marveled.....
Warpt762x39
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Considering the closest thing to being a veteran (other than most of my family having been in) would be my two years in AFJROTC in high school.
And as for being a senior citizen? I don't think I qualify as I just turned 26 on Monday
As long as the topic is Garands, it's not a problem. Just as long as you post up anything I need to know before hand. Any weird quirks that go along with owning and shooting a Garand.
Agree. That is a really cool looking stock.
I bought a SA from a local collector, and a CMP H&R. The Springfield muzzle is a 1 the H&R is about 1.5. The CMP one has a real beat-up stock, but the metal is nice. The Springfield just looks nice all over. I do agree, go to a CMP store if you can.
Geno
Geno
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Only the strange proclivity to have more than 1.
Don
Warpt762x39
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That's already a problem for me and I don't even own one yet. I want a basic range mule for 'plinking', I want a totally restored one that looks original and I want one to see how accurate I can make it without spending tons of cash on it.
That last one will end up being done a little at a time.
Tim the student
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So true. I went to the North Store to hand pick a nice field grade. I got one with a great bore, some metal that is ugly in places, but it had an uncut oprod and a SA/GAW stock on it. I wanted a decent shooter, so I got it.
Then, I went back, and ended up coming home with a Special Grade.
Now, I'm thinking about mail ordering a Service Grade with a sticky asking for the lowest serial number in that crate. (Really want a WWII receiver.)
Next, I think I want a Correct Grade.
Then, I think I want an M1D.
And then....
I'm about to order a carbine pretty soon, and if those are as addicting as Garands, I'm in real trouble. I'll have to start selling plasma I think.
Flash!
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as of last week, this is what the south CMP store emailed me that they had in stock....
field correct, service grade special, and CMP special
grades on display in the store.
field correct, service grade special, and CMP special
grades on display in the store.
Warpt762x39
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What's funny is that the Garand I shot in August didn't do anything that resembled the cause of Garand thumb. Starting with the bolt back, I put a loaded 8 round clip in and had to push the handle forward to get the bolt to close.
Also, in everything I've seen and read, to get a loaded clip out of the rifle you have to push the button on the left side of the gun to get it to eject. The one I shot popped the loaded clip out if you pulled the op rod handle back all the way.
When you pulled it back, it would hesitate right about where it would be when the bolt stops when the gun is empty. If you pulled it back just a bit more, the clip would come flying out of the gun.
Learned that the first time I tried to shoot it. Pulling the bolt back ejected the clip. Basically slapping it forward sent it into battery. And not once, though I was ready for it, did the bolt unintentionally close on my thumb.
JWF III
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My father taught me many years ago how to not get Garand Thumb. (Being issued one in the USMC, he had plenty of time begind them.)
Use the edge of your right hand to hold the charging handle back. While doing this, use your thumb to seat the enbloc. If it should by chance try to close, your hand will be there to stop it. If not, give it a quick pop on the handle. (I normally do this regardless.)
:bangheadKnock on wood.) I've never had a case of Garand Thumb.:banghead: Yet. And I have a couple thousand rounds through them to date.
Wyman
Use the edge of your right hand to hold the charging handle back. While doing this, use your thumb to seat the enbloc. If it should by chance try to close, your hand will be there to stop it. If not, give it a quick pop on the handle. (I normally do this regardless.)
:banghead
Knock on wood.) I've never had a case of Garand Thumb.:banghead: Yet. And I have a couple thousand rounds through them to date.Wyman
Garand thumb doesnt come from loading the rifle. Its really impossible to do as the bullets are in the way.
It happens when playing around with the rifle when empty and putting your fingers where they dont belong.
I have shot Garands for years and never once come close to it happening
It happens when playing around with the rifle when empty and putting your fingers where they dont belong.
I have shot Garands for years and never once come close to it happening
ol' scratch
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Keep your thumb pointed up. I had a Korean War Vet teach me. If you point your thumb down, the bolt will catch your thumb and smash it into the receiver. I have yet to have my Garand bite the hand that feeds it.You mean like the thumb thing.
Back to that training, I got ahold of some 1954 LC and loaded up some era enblocs, got my mil spec 1911 out and let the my friend have some fun. He said it was the first time he had chambered a live round in a Garand in 50 years. It was funny, but something just came over him and he snapped back to that time and handled the rifle very well.
The next guy I want to take out to shoot it is my uncle. He is a WWII vet and said he swore the day they took his garand and gave him the carbine. He picked up a K98 sniper rifle over there too. He said his CO wrapped it around a tree. Said it was the closest he came to shooting a CO (said as a joke).
ol' scratch
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The rifle could have a few problems that cause that. Recently, I have read that the Greek enblocs with heavy park can cause the rifle to eject a partially loaded enbloc. Also might be a problem with the op rod catch. Things do get worn.
Warpt762x39
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It wasn't a problem normally. The clip would go in just fine and the bolt would stay put until you slapped it forward. If you pulled the bolt handle back just after inserting the clip, it would pop out.
Only reason I found out it did that was because I was in the habit of pulling the bolt handle back on an SKS for so many years. I'll have to change that particular habit once I get a Garand.
HorseSoldier
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+1 for anyone who wants a Garand and is in driving distance of the North or South store. Besides getting a rifle that will probably be a ways above the grading minimums, there's just the sheer fun of walking into a place where there's racks and racks of Garands, carbines, and whatnot for sale (though sometimes that can be painful too -- South Store had a 5-digit S/N Garand that had been welded up into a blank-only gun for a VFW post somewhere for a long time . . .)
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