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Which is the best CZ pistol in SD, HD and Target categories?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by el Godfather, Oct 14, 2013.

  1. el Godfather

    el Godfather Senior Member

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    Dear THR:
    Which CZ pistol would you choose for:

    1. Self Defense
    2. Home Defense
    3. Range / Targets / Competition

    My picks are

    1. CZ 75 compact shadow line
    2. CZ 75 Auto
    3. Czechmate

    Thank you
     
  2. billybob44

    billybob44 Member

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    Best for ME...

    I like my CZ PO-1 for SD + HD best.

    My CZ-75B Stainless for carry when I can cover with coat/jacket. Also GREAT range pistol.
     
  3. leadcounsel

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    If I were picking CZ, I would pick a CZ Phantom for home defense. That gun is nearly perfect.

    Fits my hand perfectly, and I have size large hands. Extremely ergonomic. I think the mags are 18+1.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SeZSWG06UM

    Just a real joy to shoot.

    For carry, I'd get the CZ P01. Another excellent pistol.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuB8N5GvnjI

    CZs, in my experience, after owning and shooting many, are wonderfully accurate and reliable.

    CZs are one of my top favorite pistol lines.

    With CZs, you have to decide whether you prefer the decocker or safety models.

    The standard CZ75 models come with a 1911 style safety. The P01 series comes with the decocker.

    You could get the P07 series, and the ability to change from decocker to safety... but frankly from a CZ fans standpoint, this swap out part feels cheap.
     
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  4. barnbwt

    barnbwt Senior Member

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    CZ52 for all three (cuz that's the only CZ I have :D)

    TCB
     
  5. Otto

    Otto Senior Member

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    A Checkmate? Way too pricey, might as well get a Les Baer
    Please realize that most factory CZ's have crappy triggers. A decent trigger is a must for accuracy. Figure spending an extra $200 to improve the pull.
    I have a CZ 75 SHADOW T. It's basically defective because the dust cover drags on the slide. CZ Custom refused to make it right...so I'm done with them.
    Also have a 75B stainless. As mentioned the trigger sucked and it was re-done. Accuracy is sub-par because the barrel lacks a bushing and there's excessive movement at the end of the muzzle. I'm talking to a gunsmith to install a bushing. CZ Custom has started to offer bushings but they look hideous.
    I've also bought a CZ 97 in 45acp. The quality control was crappy with barrel movement at the hood and muzzle but fortunately Buds Guns took the gun back.

    If you do decide on a CZ, get a SAO (single action only) for a better trigger.
     
  6. BowerR64

    BowerR64 Senior Member

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    Ide use this becasue its the only CZ i have as well.

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    I kinda like it.

    I dont know if ide carry it though, its a bit of a pig with a loaded mag.

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. TarDevil

    TarDevil Senior Member

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    • 75D PCR
    • P09
    • SP01 Shadow
     
  8. 5-SHOTS

    5-SHOTS Member

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    For my experience is:
    1)CZ P-01;
    2)CZ P-01;
    3)CZ P-01. :p:neener:
     
  9. frankiestoys

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    I have a 75 compact while not really made for target shooting it does alright ,good carry gun though
     
  10. el Godfather

    el Godfather Senior Member

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    ^ which compact?
     
  11. mes228

    mes228 Member

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    CZ

    For carry it's quite hard to beat plastic pistols. I have quite a few handguns that are steel. However, I carry a plastic one (Glock 23 stoked with Glock 22 mags and a "collar" to fill the gap). I think the CZ 75 P07 Duty is a superb pistol and a great value. Holsters are not common but can be ordered.
     
  12. blahpony

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    A CZ P-07 will fit in a SA XD 4" holster just fine. I have an OWB one for mine and it works great.
     
  13. Pilot

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    The CZ PCR can actually fill all the roles you state, however, it is my main carry piece. Sometimes it is also my nightstand/SD pistol but my 75B or
    Browning Hi Power normally takes that role.

    For range/completion I'd go with a tuned SP-01 Shadow.
     
  14. Pilot

    Pilot Senior Member

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    Wow. Sounds like you have had really bad luck with CZ. I have a PCR, 75B, and Kadet Kit .22LR conversion unit that I use on both. All have been flawless, and accurate with excellent out of the box triggers. They did get better with use.

    I don't think the CZ design needs a barrel bushing. If it did then that could be said for almost any semi auto that doesn't have a barrel bushing. A Beretta 92 series may be one that could use a bushing, but that would be for serious target work.

    My shooting buddy as an SP-01 Shadow that is totally stock, and very easy to shoot accurately. It is almost boringly accurate.
     
  15. ForumSurfer

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    What he said. I can only comment on that and the PCR. My p-01 trigger feels so much better than my PCR that I previously owned. I understand there aren't many differences between the two, so my PCR must have been a lemon.

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  16. mnhntr

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    CZ 97 BD for all 3 categories
     
  17. Walt Sherrill

    Walt Sherrill Senior Member

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    Great gun, but kind of BIG and HEAVY for concealed carry for some people/body types. Otherwise great for HD. SD, and range/traget use.
     
  18. jjones45

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    1. cz p07 duty
    2. cz p97
    3. cz sp01



    Posted from Thehighroad.org App for Android
     
  19. jjones45

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    sorry about that, there is no p97, I meant 97 bd


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  20. Otto

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    No, my Sigs don't have anywhere near the barrel slop as the CZ's do and I own 8 Sig pistols. Fact is, if there is any barrel wiggle at the muzzle, accuracy is compromised.
    CZ Custom in AZ is beginning to address this issue. But their bushings looks like crap.

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  21. Pilot

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    ^^^^^^Interesting. That is the first I've seen of that barrel bushing. Thanks for posting. Both my 75B, and PCR are nice, and tight. No noticeable "slop" in barrel lock up, and they are both more accurate than I am. Still, a barrel bushing can't hurt, and I really don't mind the looks of that one, but obviously you do.
     
  22. ClickClickD'oh

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    Or you could just fire a few boxes of ammo through it. CZs triggers break in with use.
     
  23. Big Dave

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    Otto, How does the slide drag on the dust cover on your Shadow? Are the slide rails deformed or burred?
     
  24. Walt Sherrill

    Walt Sherrill Senior Member

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    I presently own several SIGs and have had many CZs, still have an 85 Combat and custom AT-84s. I have never really noticed (nor heard others complain about) barrel or lockup slop (i.e., an ability to move the barrel around when the slide was fully closed/in battery) in any of the CZ models. I have heard complaints about the 97B plastic bushing. I had one, and the bushing wasn't tight -- in fact, the manuall said "don't make it tight", but the gun still shot well. (The plastic was offputting for many folks; I don't know if this is still a characteristic of the new 97Bs...)

    I've never noticed a great difference in accuracy, either, between my SIGs and my CZs. (Several of my Glocks are equally accurate, and they don't have removable bushings. In competition, some of my best scores were done using a Glock 34... Go figure.)

    The SIG lockup design is slightly different than the design used in the basic traditional the CZ-75B-based guns. With the 75-based design, the barrel, slide and frame are designed to lockup at the rear and a bushing would offer little benefit. Exceptions are the 40B, the 97B and maybe the new P-07/P-09, which are more SIG-like in their lockup design.

    Many guns have bushings, but they just aren't removable: the BHP and CZ-75 have separate bushing pressed into the slide; they aren't easily removed -- as there's no reason to do so. With many (most?) of the guns that have removable bushings, they're removable for a reason: you can't field strip them, otherwise.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the Custom Shop's work on bushings is for guns with the newer lockup design. (That said, the 40B used a SIG-like lockup design, but didn't require a removable bushing.)

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  25. Orion8472

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    1. Self Defense - CZ 75 Compact [without rail]. Thin "CZ Rami", if they would make it.
    2. Home Defense - CZ P-09 . . . with +2 base plate. :-D
    3. Range / Targets / Competition - Custom CZ SP-01 with competition hammer and SAO trigger.

    For anyone else, . . . I think a basic CZ 75 would do pretty well for each catagory.
     

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