Which One Do You Grab?

[amprecon]

Alright, here's the deal, you have moments to get out of your house because of some impending disaster, the power is out and there's no water pressure in your house, you've already heard reports of looting and roaming gangs in nearby neighborhoods. You have these three rifles to choose from, a full ammo can for each one (300 rounds) an 8-mag pouch for the SLR and RRA and a 6-mag pouch for the M1A, but you can only choose one.

SLR-95 7.62X39

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Rock River Arms LAR-6 6.8spc

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Springfield Armory M1A .308 Win

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[Rail Driver]

I'd grab the AR. I've been trained with one, and I'm much more comfortable firing one of those in a stress situation than either of the other two.

*on edit: I just noticed it's a 6.8 ... I'd grab the AK instead, but if I'm stuck with the AR, I'd go hunting for a 5.56 upper and a stockpile of ammo immediately.

 

[peabody]

probly my shotgun.

but as for YOUR weapons, i'ed grab the M1.

i on the other hand would grab my A1' IDA [israel defense forces] clone,
sling it on, and grab the shotgun.

peabody

 

[jon86]

I didn't vote, but I'd feel just as comfy with the SLR-95 as I would be with the AR. I personally have more training and practice with the AR 15, but if they were MY guns I guess I'd have equal training with both. You mentioned that the power was out. And this is a defensive situation. If power is out, I want a light. For defense I'll take more rounds. Your M1A is probably a little better at long range offensive applications than defensive, and it doesn't have a light on it, which is why I wouldn't grab the M1A.

 

[crazyivan]

I dont have a AR or a M1A so I cant say much on them.

I would pick the AK. It cant shoot as far or as easy as the AR or M1A but it can hit man size targets at 200yds if you have practiced with it. And it is the must common ammo type of the 3 I think and it will take any 7.62x39 you give it.

And if you dont have to worry about grabing a cleaning kit for it before you go.
But still was hard picking the SLR-95 or the M1A, have heard good things about those.

 

[mokin]

If you have three rifles and at least 900 rounds, why leave the house? I voted RRA by the way....

 

[Psyco Tyco]

i have 3 battle rifles and 300 rounds each? why am i leaving my house?

im getting on my roof with my sons and the guns and were watching our perimeter, and im taking the M1a because im less recoil sensitive than my sons...

 

[strambo]

I voted for the SLR-95 with some hesitation vs the AR. Put an Ultimak rail and Aimpoint H1 on that baby and there would be no hesitation. 5 yrs of constant on, SHTF, red dot goodness. I guess if you shut it off when not in use the batteries may last a decade?

 

[JShirley]

If you were staying in or near the house, or can use a vehicle, use the bigun. If you have to move on foot, AR carbine. One advantage of the AR is that US police and military will be more likely to see an AR-15 as a "police rifle" than the automatic "bogie" response an AK platform might trigger. 6.8 is a better deer gun, but for logistics, I'd much prefer 5.56mm.

Really, unless you're preparing for N Korean human wave attacks, a sturdy bolt-action in a common caliber with a low-power scope makes the best disaster rifle, IMO.

 

[Ike R]

As they sit there I would choose the AR, you have a light, scope, BUIS, and your more likly to find replacement parts for it than the AK or M1 shoot the 6.8 rounds till I ran out and hopefully by then I would have found an 5.56/.223 upper and some ammo for it, which shouldn't be to hard, just find the mall ninja's and help them fight off the thugies.

Behind it would be the m1a, but only if its actually a 7.62/308, for no other reason than its a Nato Caliber and ammo would be easier to find for it than the AK, plus every hoodie and thug will have AK's and if I change my mind about wanting one, I could take them out with the 6.8 or m1 from a much farther distance.

I never really thought about what JShirley says as far as police perception of an AR vrs AK-47, it however makes alot of sense, and I guess the same could be said about the M1 versus the AK.

 

[john917v]

I chose the AR, since I live in a suburban-ish area, and I'd like the better accuracy over the SLR. If I lived in an urban setting, I'd go for the SLR. In an outright rural area, I'd take the M1A

 

[scythefwd]

Which one are you most comfortable with? I have several rifles, most of which I can shoot equally well. I can't reload my garand blindfolded, so that would be out. My single action is the same (it loads slower than my bolts, I can find the chamber, but it might take me longer to do so) so I would go with any of my bolt actions. All in all, it's not the caliber, or accuracy of the firearm in a TEOTWAWKI situation, its how well you can use the firearm. The firearm can shoot .002 moa groups, but if you can't keep it fed it's not going to do you any good.

 

[MTMilitiaman]

I'd grab the M1A. I'd more than likely have a handgun with a light on it for indoors and low light encounters. While not ideal as it's set up, I prefer the M1A because I am more confident in it. Even though I have far more actual training with the AR than anything else, and far more time with an AK than anything else, since I bought my M1A, it has quickly become the first rifle I look to for just about anything. I'll more than likely be using it for hunting season this year, in fact. The controls are very instinctive for me, it points like a dream and has excellent ergonomics, the sights are outstanding, and the trigger is very good. This rifle works with me to produce hits like no other rifle I've ever used, and it has better shooting characteristics too. It just feels solid. And not having that annoying buffer tube going "SPOING" next to my head all the time is definitely a plus. The rifle is heavier, as is its ammunition, which is why I can't carry as much of it. Nevertheless, I think I can work around this. The 7.62mm takes less ammo to accomplish the same task. And sense I am not going to be doing a lot of suppressive fire, I feel like whether it is disabling a vehicle, hitting a known threat behind a barrier, or whatever, I can do more with less. Plus, I know I personally have a much higher hit probability with my M1A than with either of the other two, and the 7.62x51 should be easier to find ammo for as it is a domestically produced cartridge used by our own military and police forces, and as a popular sporting round.

Runner up would be the AK. I feel like it would be less prone to breakage and require less maintenance than the AR, and ammo would be easier to find for it than the 6.8 SPC. If the AR was a piston gun in 5.56, I would probably opt for it. But as it is, AK takes second.

As stated earlier, I ain't buggin out unless I have to with that stockpile. At the very least, I know I have two friends with me to take the other two rifles.

 

[kwelz]

AK is the only viable weapon for that situation of the ones you mentioned.

 

[LHRGunslinger]

AK. If you need to know why somethin's seriously wrong with ya.

 

[CHEVELLE427]

my AR with the 20 pocket.....30 round mag pack laying on the floor by the AR in the corner with 2 40 round mags on it. comes out to 680 rounds out the door in 30 sec.

if time ,there is a full ammo can in the room by the door



but like stated above , guns and ammo are here, it would be best if family and friends made it here instead.
i would think looters would be looking for some were not so deadly to loot

 

[possum]

personally i would take the ar, that is what i have attended training and carried on the job the most, and that is what i am best with.

 

[M2MikeGolf]

As a retired Infantryman, I'd opt for your AR with that excellent Aimpoint like this one pictured that I carried a few years ago. That is one of the all time perfect matchups as far as I'm concerned; the flattop M-16/M-4 with Aimpoint (or ACOG, if you like). I prefer the Aimpoint though as you can adjust the reticle brightness, the batteries last for a long time (I had the same battery in mine for 13 months in Iraq, and I turned it on everyday for 16-18 hours a day minimum), you can mount Aimpoints 3x magnifier behind it, OR a PVS-14 (I once qualified expert at night with no external light with a setup like that). Don't get me wrong, I love the M-14, but for versatility, ammuniton weight, accuracy, short and long range capablity, ergonomics, etc, that's one of the most ideal combinations I've seen in 24 years of soldierin'. It turned average shootin' grunts in my units into CQB (and longer range killers). I'm not that familiar with 6.8, but it seems a pretty good upgrade from 5.56, enough so the Army considered it seriously for awhile at least. If I'm not mistaken, there's a newer improved 6.8 SPC that's even better, however, I think 5.56 is adequate enough. Anyway, thats all just my humble opinion.

 

[Silvanus]

From your three choices I would grab the SLR-95 7.62X39. I prefer ARs but I don't like the barrel length and caliber of yours...

 

[68wj]

Voted RRA in the spirit of the poll:

Walking down the street with the SLR would make me a target for the LEOs/Nat Guard/etc that were trying to regain control. Yes, it is a stereotype that AK style rifles are evil terrorist/communist tools, but stereotypes exist for a reason.

The AR would be functional and I could pass myself off as "official" if I needed to move through a "controlled" area. 300 rounds of 6.8 should be adequate for my needs. If the disaster continues and my 300 rounds start to dry up, I am sure I could find something else.

The M1A is an outstanding choice, and depending on the terrain might be better suited (mountains v. suburban/urban). 300 rds of .308 is a lot to haul plus supplies though and it might be overkill.

 

[Geno]

I have seen a lot of these threads, taken a lot of Advanced Tactical Shooting courses, and thought a lot about my defensive weapons and situation. There is no other area that I know as-well-as I know my own house/property and surroundings. I know exact yardages in all clear directions of fire.

The overriding problem with leaving is, if I abandon my home, especially leaving two firearms and 300 rounds each, surely they will be stolen and probably used illegally. If conditions are that bad, likely to the roads are already bad and full of unknowns. In my opinion, and for my family, staying put is the wisest option.

In terms of defensive weapon choice, take them all, or risk their not being there on return. My go-to defensive weapon is a .308 Win bolt-action rifle with Nightforce 3.5-15X56 scope. For what it's worth, this rifle groups 1" at 300 yards. For closer distances, an 870 Tactical 12 gauge, and/Glock or Colt 1911.

In closing, I think these sorts of scenario threads tend to play on an over-fixation on the improbable. Sure, be prepared, but after becoming prepared, stop worrying. Enjoy your firearms, your firearms training, and integrate preparedness into your training/fun.

JMHO,

Geno

 

[EdLaver]

Definetly the AR platform, its America's gun and may be looked at as friendly as opposed to an AK with is known as a terrorist weapon. I have spoken to local police about this and they agree in a situation where you are on foot, it would look better with an AR. The general public (those who are not in our firearms community) may look at you as aggressive or a "bad guy" using a terrorist weapon.

 

[bri]

I voted SLR. If the AR was 5.56, I would've gone that route.

 

[ColdDeadHand]

I'm grabbing the M1A, and that's how I voted. I'll hand the AR to my wife since it's probably the lightest of the bunch.

One question, though: Are we likely to be crawling around in a bunch of crud? If so, I might hand her the AK clone instead of the AR.

 

[FirearmsEnthusiast]

The SL9, because I know how to use one .