Which polymer auto?

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OK, I am becoming a polymer fan. I am OK with the blocky look of the Glock and XD, and I will own one of each eventually, but I prefer even my polymer to look like a "regular" pistol. Also, my SIG 226 has got me interested in the higher end mass production pistol companies.

So, out of some of the polymer offerings of some of the major gun makers, how do they stack up?

Specifically I'm considering:

-The SIGPro, probably in .40S&W.

-The FN FNP40

-The Walther P99

-The S&W SW99

-The S&W M&P

-The Kimber KPD 40

I'm also considering other polymers (the Glocks, XD, Taurus 24/7 or another Taurus Milennium Pro) and some steel or aluminum pistols, but these are the guns I want to hear about right now.
 
You should be wanting to hear about the Beretta PX4, because it is a sweet shooter that doesn't look like a brick, but I won't talk about it.:D
 
Boats, the PX4 doesn't really do it for me. Actually, I know I don't have much company, but if I was to buy a Beretta in larger than .380 it would be the 90-two (but I think I'll be passing on that as well). Now the Beretta I'd really like is the 84 in nickel with some nice wood grips.
 
My favorite poly-auto is the USP or USPc followed by the Glock 17, 19 or 26 and tied w/ the Steyr M9A1 :D

Of the ones on your list, I'd go w/ the Walther ;)
 
Chaim,

Its just my opinion, but if I were to buy a new polymer gun, I would just save up for the XD .45 in the "Tactical" (or, better put, long slide) version and pass on the others entirely. I have tried polymers a little bit, specifically a 24/7 in 9mm that was a perfectly fine gun in all regards, but I sold it because I have 3 non-polymer 9mms that I liked just as much and because the guy I sold it too is a friend. Of your list, I am really only familiar with the Walther. I cannot comment on its functionality, but I passed it over for one reason: I didn't like the sights. I don't know if this will make sense, but the rear sight groove just seemed absurdly large in comparison to the front sight post to me, and I found it distracting, although I admittedly am a fan of big, easy to pick up sights, despite the minor loss in pinpoint accuracy. Other than that, I liked the Walther very much in terms of feel, and I thought the way the controls were laid out was sort of neat.
 
Hands down the best Polymer Pistol on the market is the H&K USP. You pay for it, but it is well worth the money.


Of those mentioned, SIG would get my vote.
-Mike
 
Also look at Taurus 24/7, it got NRA handgun of the year in 2005. A friend bought one and I'm way more impressed with it that I'd normally be.
 
get the HK. it don't need to be in gun of the year or any other 'award'.
You already know its reputation already.
 
I recently purchased the Walther P99 AS, and was pretty impressed. I didn't have the chance to try it out on the range before purchasing it, and took a pretty big risk considering it was my first handgun purchase. Although many feel the P99 has a poor trigger, I found it to be quite reasonable. Then again, the AS model is supposed to have a much better trigger than some of the other models.
 
Between my son and I, we have/had three of the models listed - SigPro SP2009 9mm, S&W M&P .40, and Walther P99 9mm. All three of the guns proved very accurate and 100% reliable.

SP2009: The design was bulky and felt larger than it looked. The gripframe was surprisingly short, with a big fingerrest magazine baseplate making up the difference in length. The trigger was superlative, but the very top-heavy balance of the gun meant it was always more of a challenge to shoot well than it should have been. (Traded for the M&P.)

M&P: Looks big, but feels like it shrinks a size or two in the hand due to subtle but excellent ergonomics. The gun is a natural pointer and does not seem top-heavy like most polymer guns. This pistol really soaks up recoil, with the .40 version feeling like a light-shooting 9mm. (This gun may mean the end of my son's Glock 17.)

P99: This design has a funky appearance, very different trigger operation, and unusual controls; if you can get over those differences, it is a great gun. I think the ergonomics are superb, but YMMV with features like a decocking button and a magazine release lever in the trigger guard. The trigger has more modes of operation than most guns, but meets my needs. Features like the ability to easily change the backstrap and front sights and the windage-adjustable rear sight are also nice. (I am not a fan of polymer guns, but this is the one I bought.)

Which gun is the best? The M&P in .45 with a P99 trigger and a decocker. :D
 
For some obscure reason (to me) many people don't seem to like Rugers but I'm quite happy with my P97. For me it conceals well, the .45ACP rd is powerful enough, it's reliable, fairly light and it shoots where I point it. What else is needed??:confused:
 
P99 A/S trigger (not QA trigger) - Awesome gun. I have a fullsize one, compact one,a nd the S&W clone of the same gun - the SW99 (NOT the SW990L - different trigger). Most accurate gun I have ever owned. Shoot better w/ it than expensive 1911s. Can't say enough about it
 
bakert, I love my Ruger P345,but if you read chaims old post, I dont think I would want one either(If it happend to me) My P345 had some issues, but not to the point of not trusting it for ccw. With that said, if I carry my full size guns, it will be my CZ75.
 
Remington Nylon 66 of course! Make mine the brown nylon stock, blued with feeding thru the buttstock. :D

Yeah I know this the wrong forum, buy hey, Chaim wants a reliable, quality made semi auto that runs everytime. I'm helping. :)

Okay, I don't do .40 caliber period. Just me mind you. So for a polymer semi auto in 9mm or 45ACP

1. Kel-Tec P-11.
9mmm is super affordable to shoot, if the gun had to be used in a serious situation, and left in a Evidence room for who knows how long, having a graver to scratch a case # on the slide, staying dirty, perhaps blood, still wet because the encounter was in the rain, Officers said drop it and you did onto the ashpalt...who cares?

If this is for carry and one may have to leave somewhere because of NO CCW...
If one travels and in entering a jurisdiction not gun friendly - no tools needed, one can take it apart, separate parts, ammo , mags...journey thru, and upon reaching friendly jurisdiction takes 60 seconds tops to put gun back together -no tools remember- and good to go again.

NO stupid gun locks or keys to keep up with.

2. XD's

3. S&W looks promising, no personal experience.
 
Without a doubt you should add H&K USP and/or P2000 to that list. It's a top of the line (if not, THE top of the line) mass produced semi-auto polymer pistol.
 
Taurus Millennium Pro

If you are looking at and considering Sigs and Walthers why would you consider a gun like the Taurus? Obviously it's not a money issue.

My experiance with the Millenium Pro 145...well lets just say the free one year membership in the NRA lasted longer than my Mill Pro. The constant failures to feed were driving me insane. She got traded off on a new Kimber.
 
Not on your list but I'd check out the CZ-100 or the Steyr M40-A1

Of those on your list, I'd check out the M&P (again in .40, but thats just my pref)
 
I'd second the CZ 100, which I have and really enjoy shooting. It is accuate dependable, and fits like a glove to my hand. It does take a small amount of work on the trigger, which is DAO, but mine is now quite smooth, though long. I have the SigPro 2009, which I also like. It is also a good shooter and has an excellent trigger, though I find it a bit more top heavy than the CZ.
 
My Mil-Pro PT-145 has been flawless. Great as a CCW. Pick up and handle each one and see which feels best for you. As long as you go with the 2nd or 3rd generation Mil-Pro's, you will have a great firearm...9mm, .40 or .45..
 
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