which Remington 870 mods are most useful?

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I'm about to place an order at Brownells and I'm thinking about tweaking my new 870 a little. What shotgun mods have you guys found to actually be useful?

mag extension
big head safety
side saddle ammo holder
a good sling

maybe something I'm not thinking of?
 
Home defense?
Rabbit hunting?
Trap shooting?

Mag extension - good for home defense. trap doesn't need one, hunting may be restricted.

Big head safety - OK. Some people don't like them. It's than the "J" lock remington one (If it has one)

Side saddle - Don't care for them myself. it's always in the way and heavy.

Sling - good for hunting, bad for home defense, don't need it for trap
 
What kind of practice? Like moving and shooting metal knockdown targets?

A ghost ring is nice but pricey.

A mounted surefire light is usually good.

I try to keep the bling bling to a minimum on most of my guns like lasers, red dots on shotguns, folding stocks. Notice I said most! :D
 
Ammo...... :p

Will this be your duty SG? If not, I'd try to duplicate your issued weapon, though around here they tend to be plain jane.

If it is going to be your duty SG, I'm partial to sidesaddles and lights. Get the sling swivels on the 870 and get used to a sling. I'd take off the light prior to the academy, no sense in getting it beat up or having yourself ear marked as a gear junkie.
 
1) The shotgun should fit properly. If that means modifying the stock, get it done. Generally factory SGs will fit a majority of the population pretty much 'as is' but if you are taller than normal or shorter than normal and the gun doesn't fit, alter it to fit. If you have a short fore-end on your gun and you have short arms, get a long field type fore-end on there, and get it slimmed down some so it fits your hand. That way you won't have to extend your weak side arm so much you have trouble supporting the gun.
A good recoil pad helps IMHO. If that means replacing the factory offering, no big deal. I like a rounded toe and a bit of an angle at the heel from the top screw up to help with mounting.

2) Mag extensions IMHO are there to make life easier for the mag spring, not so you can stuff umptyleven shells in your gun and leave them there for a few years. A one- or two- round extension is generally plenty, save for a 'game gun.' I like to load the magazine 'one down' and thereby leave room to insert another round of a different type if needed. In a standard magazine that means I load three rounds. With a one round extension I can load four rounds and still be 'one down.'
Again, you may need to leave the extension off because it adds weight and shifts balance toward the muzzle- that causes some people problems in handling the gun. Gotta have a clamp if you add an extension.

3) Big head safety, I don't like. Too easy to get nudged off, the standard button works better IMO, is easy to get to and easier to determine status by touch.

4) SideSaddle. I like 'em a lot. Other folks hate 'em just as much. Kind of a personal thing, but I like having a reload on the gun all the time and don't find any problems with SideSaddles. They do make the receiver thicker tho, gun won't fit in lots of electric locks etc. with one on.

5) Sling. A gotta- have IMO. Should be sturdily mounted in such a fashion as to not interfere with running the gun (a bunch of sling webbing jammed in front of the forearm can ruin your day when it keeps the bolt from closing). Needs to be detachable so it comes off easily if need be. Lots of options to slinging, can be as simple or as complicated as you like but it needs to be there and it needs to be strong.

6) Barrel. I like 18" barrels on working guns. I like extended forcing cones. I like choke, either IC or MOD and factory fixed is preferable, because I like tight buckshot patterns. I like sights, factory rifle sights are fine, and I like tritium in there too, which means replacing the factory inserts. All those are preferences, not necessities. A plain gun that runs will work.

7) Light. I like a white light source on a gun. I may not USE it, but I like it to be available. I like M3s, they go on and come off easily so they don't have to live on the gun all the time and they work as a flashlight by themselves when off the gun. They don't take up needed hand room in a short fore-end like the SureFire variant does.

Chances are, issue guns will be bone stock. I'd leave it as is for practice for the academy, unless I could find out what the issue guns will have on them there.

Much luck to you, be careful and stay safe.

lpl/nc
 
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What hasn't been mentioned is a replacement magazine follower. The usual Remington follower is plastic and fragile. Get a hi-viz follower.

Second thing would be better sights. The 870 barrels whether rifle sighted or with beads are better for high stress situations with Williams' Fire Sights or Tru Glo.
 
1. Figure out what the department guns where you will work look like.

2. make yours look exactly like that.

Don't spend money on a bunch of stuff that won't help you...and if its not on the stuff you will use on the street, it will NOT help you.

If you don't know what the issued weapon looks like, just buy an 870 express with a bead sight and a 18" bbl and spend the rest on ammo.

Reread that last sentence again.

Mike
 
If you don't know what the issued weapon looks like, just buy an 870 express with a bead sight and a 18" bbl and spend the rest on ammo.

good point. I might try and find out if they are using sidesaddles for the academy shotguns, just so I can get some practice reloading.
 
or having yourself ear marked as a gear junkie

I've never understood this bias. I got called a 'gear-queer' while I was in the Corps, but I always ended up being one of the only ones in the field warm at night, having a light good enough to work by, and not covered in welts from ill-fitting gear. As I saw it, if it was going to keep me comfortable or alive, it was worth the money. I suppose everyone's definition of 'mission-essential gear' differs...

Having said that, I still think there is a line that can be crossed. Remember everything you buy is something else that's got to be carried around for 12 hours.

As far as your question goes (since I'm in a similar position) I think that having a mounted light would be invaluable as I've yet to see a good way to use a flashlight that's not attached to the SG.

-Teuf
 
For 20 years my duty sidearm was a K Frame. So, my off duty sidearms were K frames also, carried in the same place. One MOA, same chops.

Same applies here. Set your 870 up like the duty guns. You may want to change it later AFTER you've acquired some levels of proficiency.

HTH....
 
Teuf, me either, but like any other form of institutional training, I suspect anything (other than good performance) that draws attention to Bill would be a bad thing. :)

Guys at work wonder why when I load the vehicle, it takes me longer than anyone else. :D But I don't freeze, run out of water or ammo when something happens either..........
 
Al, so true. While in training, the fewer folks that know one's name, the better.

Besides, a short barreled 870 right out of the box is a mighty weapon.

A sling is essential,Bill, but wait until you see what's issued. Match it and the duty weapon.
 
Something else you need to find out is if the department will allow you to use your personal SG, and what modifications are and arent allowed.

One officer came by the range one day with his duty SG, an 870 with a side-saddle, mag extension, streamlight M3, and CAR stock. He was picking up a fore-end to replace the wooden one, I think he needed a tapeswitch for his M3 as well, so I'm guessing the dept is pretty much "anything goes" when it comes to pump SGs, IIRC that was a little while before they got the new chief, who is much more gun-friendly from what I understand.

Anyway, if you cant use it on duty, dont let it spoil you.
 
:D -> Me......

:what: :eek: -> Dave..... :neener:

Seriously, only thing I don't like about the M4/M16 pistol grip equipped SGs is that my thumb keeps looking for the safety. That bit of "muscle memory" scares me.
 
:what:

I know everyone is entitled to their druthers - I certainly have mine.

sniff...sniff...I suddenly have this urgent need to hold an Old WM, feel the wood, the cold blue steel ...clickety - clack...clickety - clack... ...sniff...sniff...
 
I'm going the mesa tactical adapter/surefire forend route for my 870 express, mainly to have the collapsible stock so my fiancee can shoot competition/skeet with it (the adapter pretty much requires optics, so I figured I'd go all out). I have plenty of plane jane scatter guns including an original 1897 for those times when I wanna stroke wood :p
 
The most useful mod, IMHO, was not on your list.

It is a Knoxx stock, whether it be the CopStock, the CompStock, or the new SpecOps. Faster followup shots, and a shoulder that is not sore lead to more practice, and practice makes better as my high school chem teacher always said.
 
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