Which Scope To Buy
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Maverick223
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I really like Bushnell, and honestly find them to be the only reliable scope (from my experience) with decent optics in the economy optics series. It is my opinion that the Trophy 6-18 that you mentioned will serve you well.
I believe the "Multi-X" is just Bushnell's unconventional way to say that the reticle is a standard, common duplex. Personally I prefer different reticles for different jobs...simple ballistic reticles for medium-long range hunting rifles, German No. 4 reticle for dangerous game/short range hunting, duplex for plinkers, and mil-hash reticles for long range target rifles. Everyone is different, but the one thing that I don't care for is a cluttered, overly complex ballistic reticle on any rifle.
I believe the "Multi-X" is just Bushnell's unconventional way to say that the reticle is a standard, common duplex. Personally I prefer different reticles for different jobs...simple ballistic reticles for medium-long range hunting rifles, German No. 4 reticle for dangerous game/short range hunting, duplex for plinkers, and mil-hash reticles for long range target rifles. Everyone is different, but the one thing that I don't care for is a cluttered, overly complex ballistic reticle on any rifle.
atlanticfire
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have Bushnell’s on ALL of my rifle (and some pistols) from the Banner and the Sportsman to the 4200 and 6500. They all are quality scopes. And vary in price from $75 to over $500. I would feel safe going with any of them.
Nikon, Mueller, Bushnell.
Look at those brands, there are a few more decent budget brands but I can't remember them off the top of my head.
Nikon is definitely the best choice IMHO.
Avoid new Tasco, BSA, Barska, NcStar, Simmons (highest end model is okay, but not great)
Look at those brands, there are a few more decent budget brands but I can't remember them off the top of my head.
Nikon is definitely the best choice IMHO.
Avoid new Tasco, BSA, Barska, NcStar, Simmons (highest end model is okay, but not great)
So Jim, you are target shooting? Paper not prairie dogs? I don't think you need even 18x magnification unless you are doing bench rest shooting competitively which I really don't see the excitement in, but that is another post. If you want a couple steals sportsmans guide has federal intensity optics which are weaver made scopes under this federal intensity name on it but it is weaver glass and has a weaver lifetime guarantee and weaver is excellent with customer service. The scope you'd be interested in is a 4-12x44 going for 70 bucks or the version made by atk who merged with weaver, is going for 90. Pentax has another 4-12 on sportsmans guide called the game seeker and it is a quality scope from the research I've done but not actual experience. Glass is somewhere in the level of nikon's prostaff line. On swfa.com they have bushnell legend scopes for right around 200 and that is their second best scope line under the elite series and they have the bushnell trophy 6-18 for 179.00
TIRED TRAVELER
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I am getting closer to my decision and will soon tell all what it is, but now need to know how to determine what scope mount height I will need for the model 700 Rem.
They seem to be available in three heights, regular, medium and high.
What is the science behind the selection? :banghead:
JIM
They seem to be available in three heights, regular, medium and high.
What is the science behind the selection? :banghead:
JIM
Sock Puppet
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Unless you plan on doing long range work most of the time, I wouldn't buy anything over 14X. A 4-14 would be more than adequate.
I would also take a close look at the Bushnell 3200 series, Nikon, and Sightron.
I would also take a close look at the Bushnell 3200 series, Nikon, and Sightron.
TexanAviator
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Super Sniper is alot of glass for the money.
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It didn't seem in the OP's case that point blank range would be as much a concern as the scope, rifle, shooter fitting together.
Point Blank range is something he should at least be aware of, do you have any charts that would give max PBR per ring height?
Point Blank range is something he should at least be aware of, do you have any charts that would give max PBR per ring height?
TIRED TRAVELER
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Now that PBR has been brought into the conversation could someone go into it a little more in depth.
Thanks JIM
Thanks JIM
hub
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I just posted in another thread about a scope and it seems that it would fit the bill here too. I know no one likes to hear it but don't buy a cheap scope it will only cost you more in the long run.
I put a Nikon Prostaff 3-9x40 on my .17hmr and I think it's excellent for the money. They can be had for around $150. But the best bang for your money with Nikon is the Team Primos models. From what I have heard they are Buckmaster prices with Monarch glass. SWFA has them now for $200. If I was in the market for a good cheap scope for a 22-250 that's exactly what I would buy.
http://swfa.com/Nikon-3-9x40-Team-Primos-Riflescope-P44156.aspx
I put a Nikon Prostaff 3-9x40 on my .17hmr and I think it's excellent for the money. They can be had for around $150. But the best bang for your money with Nikon is the Team Primos models. From what I have heard they are Buckmaster prices with Monarch glass. SWFA has them now for $200. If I was in the market for a good cheap scope for a 22-250 that's exactly what I would buy.
http://swfa.com/Nikon-3-9x40-Team-Primos-Riflescope-P44156.aspx
ADKWOODSMAN
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Have had the best luck with Leupold. Having said that, I also run 1.5 X 5 by Bushnell on my Ruger 10-22's.
This past year I put two Bushnell 3 x 9's on two Contender Carbine barrels. I don't like them that much.
From past experience I put a 2.5 x 8 Leupold on my Model 700 Rem .280 and it shoots like all my leupolds right to the same point on any change of settings. They are bright and clear.
I also purchased a Nikon Pro Staff for a Rem. Mod. 7 in .222 that I acquired and it shoots fine and is very clear and bright. I hope to test it on coyotes this winter.
This past year I put two Bushnell 3 x 9's on two Contender Carbine barrels. I don't like them that much.
From past experience I put a 2.5 x 8 Leupold on my Model 700 Rem .280 and it shoots like all my leupolds right to the same point on any change of settings. They are bright and clear.
I also purchased a Nikon Pro Staff for a Rem. Mod. 7 in .222 that I acquired and it shoots fine and is very clear and bright. I hope to test it on coyotes this winter.
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A K31 is "ancient"? Hmm, wondering what that would make a Brown Bess....
People do occasionally have luck with Tasco & BSA (glad of that), but they're a crap shoot at best - certainly not a good idea to actually PLAN to buy one.
People do occasionally have luck with Tasco & BSA (glad of that), but they're a crap shoot at best - certainly not a good idea to actually PLAN to buy one.
Maverick223
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PBR, or Pabst Blue Ribbon, is an economy priced adult beverage that is available at virtually any convenience store in the South-East. It shouldn't be consumed when you are sighting in your new optics, but may be helpful in your decision on what to purchase.
PBR, or point blank range, is the maximum range that a particular rifle can be sighted in at to retain its capability to maintain an acceptable variance (will depend upon the game sought after, and accuracy required; generally a few inches up or down) in drop to maximize the range that one can effectively shoot without worrying about dialing in or holding for bullet drop. Clear as mud...right?
Bobarino
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check out Millet LRS1's. they come in 4-16x and 6-25x. 35mm tubes and 56mm objectives with about 4" of eye relief. http://www.millettsights.com/controller.php/cat09/lrs
this is what will be topping my soon to be purchased long range rifle.
Bobby
this is what will be topping my soon to be purchased long range rifle.
Bobby
stubbicatt
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You might look at the IOR offerings. I've been pleased with mine.
TIRED TRAVELER
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Well, I'm down to two scopes; SWFA SS10x42 or SWFA 20x42, so I'll throw it out to the group which one to buy, oh and if you know which SWFA mounts. Regulsr, medium or high?
This scope is going on a Remington heavy barrel, 1968 vintage in 22-250. I don't expect to hunt just target and long range plinking
This scope is going on a Remington heavy barrel, 1968 vintage in 22-250. I don't expect to hunt just target and long range plinking
Maverick223
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I would think the 20x would serve you better (depending upon your definition of "long range"), those .22s are hard to see at long range.
Uncle Mike
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The day will come when you want to whack a whistlepig with that thing...and if you have a 20X scope on it, you'll be cussin'!
While the 20X is choice for table top shooting, the caliber you have picked isn't the bestest for target and bench shooting!
I mean, why use that barrel burner to punch paper...a 22-250 is a fine lady, happy in the meadow lands, ridding the world of vermin and such....there are many .22 caliber rounds that are much easier on the barrel and lend themselves to target shooting better than a 22-250!
Anyway...I would go with the 10X, unless your sure that you'll never engage a close in groundhog and hole punching is all your going to do.
While the 20X is choice for table top shooting, the caliber you have picked isn't the bestest for target and bench shooting!
I mean, why use that barrel burner to punch paper...a 22-250 is a fine lady, happy in the meadow lands, ridding the world of vermin and such....there are many .22 caliber rounds that are much easier on the barrel and lend themselves to target shooting better than a 22-250!
Anyway...I would go with the 10X, unless your sure that you'll never engage a close in groundhog and hole punching is all your going to do.
Jim, one word for ya' here, Weaver.
Go to Midway's site and take a look at their offerings and the reviews of those who have bought the different models.
We own several different scopes including Leupold, Burris, Bushnell, Nikon, Simmons and so forth.
The Weaver is by far the best deal going.
Go to Midway's site and take a look at their offerings and the reviews of those who have bought the different models.
We own several different scopes including Leupold, Burris, Bushnell, Nikon, Simmons and so forth.
The Weaver is by far the best deal going.
Supertac45
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I've pretty much tried them all over the last 40+years. Swarovski seems to offer the most bang for the money.
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