Which USA pump most likely to cycle?

[tactikel]

I only have experience with Remingtons and Mossbergs. I have well over 1000 rounds thru each of my pumps, and can say they all are more reliable than me. You really are the weakest link. Buy a 870, 500,( or a Nova), and you wont go wrong. Shoot it at least 500 rounds (at clays, birds, targets) before you trust you life to it.

 

[Hangingrock]

Brownells safety button replacement for OEM button

Shell carrier saddle

Luminous front sight for low light applications

One modification not shown is a stainless steel magazine follower.

My preference for multiple users would be the Mossberg 590 series because of it ambidextrous feature being the tang mounted safety and the slide release lever location.

 

[shockwave]

One modification not shown is a stainless steel magazine follower.

I see that Vang has this available for the Mossie for $22. Is this the part you push new shells against when loading? What's the thinking behind this modification? Difficulty of install?

 

[Hangingrock]

Reply to: Shockwave

The follower I used is Brownells STK# 12Ga 080-000-167AC Stainless Steel @ $19.95 (follower is the cup shaped piece interface between crimped end of the shell and the magazine spring).

I thought the OEM follower over the long haul would not be as durable. I’ve also done this on my Remington 870.

It’s an easy change out refer to you’re Mossberg manual diagram and barrel removal procedures.

R/S

 

[General Geoff]

After a few thousand shells of clay shooting, I can say the mossberg 590 I have is boringly reliable, with one caveat: It does not tolerate a user who is too soft with the pump. Too often I've had a friend "gently" cycle the action, and either not lock it fully into battery, or fail to eject a spent shell from the receiver. These guns like forceful cycling. Don't be afraid to manhandle that pump, and shove it back and forth with gusto. This will guarantee feeding and extraction reliability.

 

[shockwave]

I thought the OEM follower over the long haul would not be as durable. I’ve also done this on my Remington 870.

Thanks, Hangingrock. I'm still new to shotguns and learning my way around the 500. I've had the top barrel off and changing out the follower should be a piece of cake. Also, thanks for the Brownell recommendation. I've switched out the stock safety for the Vang metal version and want to upgrade to higher quality parts as I go along - so this fits with the program.

 

[Daveboone]

Mossberg, Winchester 1300, Rem. 870, Ithaca 37, Browning BPs, have owned and used all, still have the BPS, 870 and Ithaca. Without going into detail, I never liked the Mossy, and kept it a very short time: feeding problems, just felt kiddish. 870 and BPS and Win. 1300 are built to last several lifetimes. All pumps are engineered to be aggressively racked, but IMO the Winchester has the fastest and slickest action. Its rotary bolt is almost an assist in the cycling ( I think it was actually part of the advertising at one point) so it cycles the quickest and smoothest, my belief it is the least likely to short cycle or have a feeding problem when fired related to this. If cycled manually, dunno, but I never had problem. The ithaca can mis feed if it isnt upright- the cartridge will fall, possibly mis-angled in the action, not being controlled by the carrier. I sold my Winchester despite shooting it better than any other gun of mine, because I thought I had to have an 870. Something to do with the aluminum Win. reciever as opposed to the milled steel Rem. reciever. I have been trying to get it back since. The BPS is a fine gun, but extra money is paid for the gloss and finish without getting much more back in return.

 

[glazer1972]

870..

 

[Youngster]

The ithaca can mis feed if it isnt upright- the cartridge will fall, possibly mis-angled in the action, not being controlled by the carrier.

I can't get mine to do that, could it be a timing issue?

 

[pink_talon]

My current is the HK Ben. M1S90 which I love. I had a Stevens slug gun which was prone to stripping a 2mm sliver of brass from low base shells

 

[winchester '97]

I would have to go with a mossberg, especially one of the models the military used. Though my 1st choice would have to be one of the repro 1897s with 20 inch barrels. most reliable pump shotgun period in my book, wouldnt have stayed in service from the first world war to vietnam if it jammed alot. mine if from 1907 and it has never jammed since i got it, and the norinco copies seem to live up to the reputation of the original.