"Who brings a gun to Wawa?"

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A Philadelphia man shot and killed one man and seriously injured another after at least six others began fighting with him at a Bensalem Wawa early Easter morning, police said.

No charges have been filed and police declined to release the names of anyone involved until their investigation is completed.

Bucks County District Attorney Diane Gibbons said a group of 17- to 20-year-old Philadelphia residents were drinking and partying late Saturday night into Sunday morning in a room at the Neshaminy Motor Inn on Route 1 in Bensalem. The motel is about 100 yards from the Philadelphia line.

When they got noisy and were kicked out of the motel, they crossed the highway to the Wawa gas station and convenience store, according to Gibbons. Shortly before 2 a.m. the crowd of young men got into a fight in the parking lot of the store with a 24-year-old man they didn't know, police said. It was unclear how the fight started, but Gibbons said the 24-year-old was beaten before he pulled a gun and shot Matt Taylor, 19, of Mayfair and another Philadelphian, 18.

The 24-year-old had not been involved in the earlier drinking party and did not appear to have been drinking, according to Gibbons.

"The guy came in [to the store] and said 'Call the cops; I been jumped' and the one kid [involved in the fight] said 'No, you were the shooter,' " said a Wawa associate who dialed 911. The employee asked not to be identified.

Both gunshot victims were taken to Frankford Hospitals' Torresdale campus, police said. Gibbons said Taylor died at the hospital as a result of a bullet that entered just below his sternum and exited below his right shoulder blade. An autopsy was performed at the hospital.

The second man was in surgery Sunday morning with a gunshot wound to the abdomen, Gibbons said. He was in critical condition Sunday night, hospital officials said.

Police also photographed the 24-year-old man's injuries from the fight. According to Gibbons, her office and the Bensalem police are continuing to look into the incident.

"We are investigating three things, the two shootings and the physical altercation," Gibbons said.

Police closed the convenience store for about an hour, but a section of the gas pump area and parking lot remained closed Sunday morning. Police said they recovered five shell casings at the scene. About a dozen witnesses were questioned at the Bensalem police station soon after the shootings. According to Gibbons, the 24-year-old man had a license for the handgun.

Friends of the dead man were visibly distraught as they walked out of the police station into the Easter morning light.

"Who brings a gun to Wawa?" one man asked anyone who would listen.

As another man left the station he learned his friend had died. He slumped to a bench and buried his head in his hands.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/111-03282005-468776.html
http://www.nbc10.com/news/4320875/detail.html
http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/news/local/11248176.htm
 
Who wants to bet the two shootees will be counted as "children" who were hurt by "gun violence"?
 
In below the sternum and out under the shoulder blade?
Sounds like he was on the ground when he fired.
 
mbs357 said:
In below the sternum and out under the shoulder blade?
Sounds like he was on the ground when he fired.

Yep...sounds perfectly justified for me. And yes, we can bet they will be counted in the "children" harmed by "gun violence" :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
 
Hmmm,

Maybee if they hadnt beed drinking (Idiotic mistake #1), and then tryed to beat up an armed man (Idiotic mistake #2) then they would still be alive.

Question: "Who brings a gun to Wawa?"

Answer: Aperently someone who wants to be able to defend themselvs from the drunken mobs.

I love the line from the miscreant who participated in this event: "No, you were the shooter!" Ya missed somethng there buddy. Like maybee the fact that you and your drunken "friends" were assaulting an armed man and forced him to defend himself. :rolleyes:

Also, i dont see how the wound chanel means he was on the ground. it just means the shooter was aiming down. the wouldn could have been made if the shootee was andgeld a few degrees when he shot him. Dont have enough information yet.

We shall See.
 
Nice titles. Nah, there's no bias in the media.

1 killed, 1 hurt in Wawa shooting
Wawa Murder Shocks Bucks Community

I am also 24, with a permit to carry, and if I was jumped by 6 guys I would have done the same.

To the gentleman who it appears shot in self-defense, I wish you the best of luck in your future legal battles, and I hope that gas station had some security cameras outside.

Taylor's family said that the two were trying to help a man who was being attacked. Police said that a 24 year-old man has admitted to firing the shots. Police said that the man had a permit to carry a firearm.

Riiiiiight.
 
Originally Posted by mbs357
In below the sternum and out under the shoulder blade?
Sounds like he was on the ground when he fired.
Sounds like the drunkerd may have been belly to belly to the intended beating victim who then had to fire upward.

Sounds like self defense to me.
 
Funny how when you're getting the crap kicked out of ya, it's a fight. Once he fired, suddenly the words Victim/Shooter/dead man crop up. No substantial mention of the real victim's injuries from the punks, just that 'Police also photographed the 24-year-old man's injuries'.

Damn media. Getting sick of bias.

EDIT: Oh, and you'll notice the writer posted his email address. :D
 
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/11253483.htm

Relatives: Teen died helping

Matt Taylor, 19, was shot to death in Bensalem. His family said he was trying to stop a beating.

By Dwayne Campbell

Inquirer Staff Writer

During a night out with friends, Matt Taylor called his mother around 1 a.m. Sunday to tell her he would be spending the night at his grandmother's house, a few blocks from his home in Philadelphia's Mayfair section.

Taylor never got there. About an hour after he called his mother, the 19-year-old was dead.

"Every day you see it on the news, but you never expect it to be your own family," Taylor's brother, Steve, 21, said yesterday.

Steve Taylor, his sister Erica, 15, brother Nicky, 13, and other family members remembered Matt yesterday as they received visitors at their Sheffield Avenue house.

Matt Taylor and Alex Ryzinski, his best friend of nine years, had been shot several miles away during a confrontation with about six men outside a Wawa store in Bensalem.

Bensalem police said Ryzinski, 18, of Rhawn Street, was in critical condition at Frankford Hospital-Torresdale Campus with a chest wound.

Bensalem detectives are investigating the shooting with Bucks County detectives and District Attorney Diane Gibbons. The alleged shooter, a 24-year-old Philadelphia man who police said had a permit to carry a gun, was questioned and released. Steve Moran, the Bensalem public safety director, said that no charges had been filed and that Gibbons planned to examine whether the shootings were in self-defense.

The Taylor family said Matt Taylor died helping to stop two men from beating up a friend. Family members said they were repeating accounts from friends who were with Taylor.

Bob Tausendfreundt, Taylor's stepfather, said those friends told him Taylor intervened in an altercation as he left the store. They said a man pointed a gun at Ryzinski and shot Taylor when he stepped in front.

Yesterday, as the Taylor family leafed through old photo albums, Ryzinski's mother and sister brought flowers. "He saved my son's life," Patricia Ryzinski said as she wept and hugged Steve Taylor and other members of his family.

According to police, the 24-year-old, whom Moran would not identify until the investigation was completed, was talking with an acquaintance Sunday morning when members of a group of men and women began arriving outside the Wawa at 2250 Lincoln Highway.

"A confrontation ensued between the two men and some in the group," Moran said. He would not say what the altercation was about but said some in the group had been drinking.

Steve Taylor said he believed his brother was helping someone when he died because "that's what Matt would do."

"It's not a shock that he would help somebody, even a stranger," he said. "It is a shock that somebody took out a weapon against him. He would never use a weapon."

Steve Taylor said his brother was stabbed about two months earlier after he intervened in an altercation between a man and a woman in the neighborhood.

Family members said Matt Taylor graduated in June from Lincoln High School, where he was good at several sports but excelled in soccer and was the captain of the team.

Steve Taylor said his brother was "a hard worker" who was most recently employed at Primo Hoagies in the neighborhood. He said Matt was planning to buy an engagement ring and propose to his girlfriend.
 
My GOD, this bleedin' heart CRAP the media spews!... WHO GIVES A FLYING SCREW THAT THE DEAD IDIOT WAS PLANNING ON BUYING AN ENGAGEMENT RING AND PROPOSING TO HIS (PROBABLY KNOCKED-UP) GIRLFRIEND?! WHAT THE *BLEEP* DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH *ANYTHING*?!

Let's paint a dead kid as some sort of SAINT just because he's DEAD, even though all the facts are not yet in and we have no idea if he was not indeed one of the miscreants who was beating the shooter/defender. :banghead: :fire: :cuss:


I'm thinking that it won't be hard for the police to fill in all the blanks here, if they're at all competent. They'll find out that the kid was among the group of drunken idiots who were making so much trouble across the highway that they got thrown out of the hotel. From there, how hard will it be to believe that he was making trouble at the Wawa? Is anyone going to believe that the shooter just decided he wanted to pop a few kids in a crowd for no good reason?

It's good to hear that they released the shooter. I hope he's got a good lawyer, and I hope that the facts bear out his decision to shoot.

By the way, *** is wrong with kids today?! Do they really have nothing better in their lives than to get wasted and act like goddamned morons?

I hope every last one of those little ????stains has permanent mental scars from having brought about the scenario that led to the violent death of their friend.

-Jeffrey
 
Please be sure to post follow up articles. I had not heard about this yet here in Baltimore, and I'm SURE I'll never hear the follow up by the media if it's in favor of the ccw holder.
 
I'm waiting for Mayor Street of Philly to point to this incident as "a prime example of why we need to limit the issue of licenses to carry hidden handguns."
 
Oh my god what bull????. You can bet your ass I will be writing an angry letter to the prick who wrote such a biased article.

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"who brings a gun to a wawa?" A better question would be, what kind of thug beats the ???? out of someone in front of a wawa? If a large group of drunken ???????s decided to start giving me a beatdown while I was getting gas at 2am, I would shoot them too.

I'm glad the little turds got shot. I wish he had killed them all. Viva Bernie Goetz.
 
Steve Taylor said his brother was stabbed about two months earlier after he intervened in an altercation between a man and a woman in the neighborhood.

HMMMM two months earlier he gets stabbed durring a fight, now he gets shot, Im sure he just happened to be drunk and in the wrong place twice, So he's either like a DRUNK batman stepping in to right a wrong, Or he gets drunk and gets in fights and as a result gets hurt killed, Which seems more likely to you folks????????

Usually when a citizen uses a firearm to defend himself, there is no mistake about who he shoots, its real easy for the victim to tell whos attacking him. Its the police who seem to have trouble when they arrive after the fact.
 
Are they trying to say that the man was intent on murdering the kid?
Whether he was trying to help him or not, it's hard to tell if a single person is trying to help a victim in a crowd of beaters.
Lay down with dogs and you get fleas...and ticks, and lice.
I find it very hard to believe he wasn't part of the beatings anyway, beings he was also part of the group that got kicked out of the hotel. If you hang out with idiots long enough you learn their ways.
The shooting was justified, no matter how I look at what I've read.
*Edit*: In my mind, the image I get of the kid helping him is being in the crowd, reaching down to pick him up. Doesn't seem bright enough to get the guys to stop hitting him first.
 
Friends of the dead man were visibly distraught as they walked out of the police station into the Easter morning light.

"Who brings a gun to Wawa?" one man asked anyone who would listen.

Of all the scenarios where I think I may need to defend myself one day, late-night fillups at the gas station rank among the top of the list.
 
This far into the thread and I'm still trying to figure out why would someone call a gas station a Wawa. It sounds like an infant pleading for it's bottle. :scrutiny:
 
Since when is DEFENDING yourself MURDER I suppose every LEO that has had to defend himself is a MURDERER give me a break
 
Who brings a gun to WaWa?

Seems like it was a pretty good idea.
Also question implies: If we'd known he had a gun we wouldn't have messed with him.
 
who brings a gun to a wawa? why a guy who wants to fill up his car and go home a live.

Radical notion apparantly.
 
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