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Who has used green dot in 45 ACP

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by billymarr, Feb 13, 2013.

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  1. billymarr

    billymarr Member

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    and your thoughts. I just picked some up as it was basically the only thing left with load data for 45 acp.
    I did get lucky with the 5lbs of RL17, 1 Pound of AA2495, the 4 pounds of Green Dot.
    1000 Tula LRMP and 1000 Tula LPMP
    All for 290 with shipping
     
  2. ReloaderFred

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    I use Green Dot for my 230 gr. JHP loads. It gave the best accuracy of anything I tried, along with good velocity numbers. For my loads, I used new Winchester .45 acp brass, Winchester primers and Winchester bulk pack 230 gr. JHP bullets.

    Hope this helps.

    Fred
     
  3. billymarr

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    Thank you does and my Google foo worked found some good load data.
     
  4. Slamfire

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    I had a cardboard container of older, estate sale, Green Dot. I assume it was late 70’s to early 80’s. It is old enough that the shiny tinned metal bottom has a small number of rust spots. The powder does not smell, I didn’t see any red, but I shot it up as soon as possible. It was at the end of its shelf life.

    Green Dot works well in the 45 ACP. My M1911’s functioned every time on the 700 fps 4.5 grain load. That load had very little recoil and yet clustered well. I judge the accuracy of the ammo by the clustering on my 25 yard gong target. Since I shoot offhand my accuracy is highly variable compared to someone shooting off sandbags. I can say that Green Dot has accuracy potential as it clustered well, but I cannot say that it is any more accurate than any other powder.

    Green Dot must be just a little slower burning than Bullseye as 5.0 grains of Green Dot gave me the same velocities as 4.5 grains Bullseye. Green Dot is still a fast burning powder.

    I fired my loads in two different M1911’s and I was glad to see that the velocities were similar between the pistols.

    Some people are ultra fussy about clean burning powders. I am not. I cannot say Green Dot is a “clean” powder as the wind was whipping through around 15 mph. Any residue in the air was gone before I could see it. My M1911’s cleaned up as usual, but I have must have a higher tolerance about residue than the clean crowd as I am happy with the clean up after Bullseye or Unique.

    I like my practice ammo to be just around 800 fps, or less, so I loaded up the rest of that Green Dot at 5.0 grains with a 230 LRN.

    I am not looking to replace any of my favorite pistols powders of Bullseye, Unique and 2400 with Green Dot. I am also not looking to add more Green Dot to the collection. But I won’t turn down Green Dot if I get it at a great price as it shoots well in the 38 Special and 45 ACP.



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    [SIZE="3"]Kimber Custom Classic 
    
    230 gr LRN  4.5 grs Bullseye 99' & 2005 mixed lot Mixed Brass WLP (brass)
    16-May-09	 high 83  °F OAL 1.250"	taper crimp .469"
    Ave Vel =	805.2				
    Std Dev =	38.07				
    ES =	136.9				
    High = 	912.4				
    Low =	775.5				
    N =	24				
    
    230 LRN 4.5 grs Green Dot lot 178 WLP  Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469"
    27 Feb 2010         T = 48 ° F	
    			
    Ave Vel =	708 fps	 
    Std Dev =	12		 
    ES =	40		
    High = 	727		
    Low =	687		
    N =	9		
    	accurate, little high, mild recoil
    			
    230 LRN 5.0 grs Green Dot lot 178 WLP  Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469"
    27 Feb 2010         T = 48 ° F	
    			
    Ave Vel =	802fps	
    Std Dev =	19		
    ES =	61		
    High = 	841		
    Low =	780		
    N =	15		
    	 		
    230 LRN 5.5 grs Green Dot lot 178 WLP  Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469"
    27 Feb 2010         T = 48 ° F	
    			
    Ave Vel =	873	fps	
    Std Dev =	30		
    ES =	88		
    High = 	922		
    Low =	834		
    N =	11		
    
    [ATTACH=full]654074[/ATTACH]
    
    M1911 Springfield Armory 5” Kart Barrel		
    					
    					
    230 LRN 4.5 grs Green Dot lot 178 WLP  Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469"
    27 Feb 2010         T = 48 ° F			
    					
    Ave Vel =	719	fps			
    Std Dev =	26				
    ES =	105.1				
    High = 	771				
    Low =	665.9				
    N =	14				
    	accurate, little high, mild recoil		
    					
    230 LRN 5.0 grs Green Dot lot 178 WLP  Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469"
    27 Feb 2010         T = 48 ° F			
    					
    Ave Vel =	803  fps			
    Std Dev =	25				
    ES =	97				
    High = 	867				
    Low =	770				
    N =	16				
    Accurate, centered
    230 LRN 5.5 grs Green Dot lot 178 WLP  Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469"
    27 Feb 2010         T = 48 ° F			
    					
    Ave Vel =	853  fps			
    Std Dev =	29				
    ES =	116				
    High = 	918				
    Low =	802				
    N =	15				
    	very accurate, centered 			
    [ATTACH=full]654075[/ATTACH][/SIZE]
     
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    Green Dot seems to be a forgotten stepchild of handgun powders as it has been around for decades and there are newer types.

    But make no mistake, it is one of the best ever in many calibers.
     
  7. gpb

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    "Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook" Third Edition lists several Green Dot loads for various cast bullets in 45 ACP.
     
  8. GaryL

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    I've been using GD with Missouri Bullet 200gr XD-4s. I picked up an old cannister same as SlamFire1 that I picked up some years back - same kind of thing. Anyway, 5.2gr has worked well for me.
     
  9. armarsh

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    I got three pounds from my dad when he passed away. It works fantastic in small blowback calibers like 380 and 9mm Mak. I also found it works quite well in 45. I use 6.0 grains with a 185 Gr MGB JHC.
     
  10. billymarr

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    thank you all for the responses. Glad I picked up some as I am almost out of 231.
     
  11. jjjitters

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    I have an 8lb jug that was given to me from work in the old Hurcules cardboard. Works fine, didn't shoot it extensively yet but most of the loads I have used it in were pretty good.
     
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