StuporDave
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Condoleezza Rice is a damned impressive human being. Wow!
Who Is Smarter - The Anti-War Actors or The Administration?
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David Park
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If I'm not mistaken, SAT scores range from 200 to 800 on each section (400 to 1600 combined). That makes the "average" score 1000, if the test is designed to fit a bell curve. A score of 1206 is definitely well above average, even if it's not at "Wile E. Coyote, Super Genius" level. 
Vladimir Berkov
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I don't think Bush was distracted by serving in Vietnam, nor did he have to work a full time job. In fact, I don't think he worked at all.
There is no real excuse for his mediocre grades then. And yes, I think academic performance is a good indicator of both intelligence and common sense. People common sense know that performing well at school is very important, at least for the vast majority of people. There are exceptions to every rule, but I wouldn't count on slacking off and getting ahead in life.
Vladimir Berkov
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I wouldn't call 1206 "well above average," in any useful sense. Since such a score is FAR lower than is normal for acceptance at a top university. (unless you are a minority)
TallPine
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Okay, Vlad, so tell us all about Al Gore's stellar college career ...
And, yes - Bill Clinton is a genius - but he can't figure out how to keep his zipper closed.
And, yes - Bill Clinton is a genius - but he can't figure out how to keep his zipper closed.
Vladimir Berkov
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Al Gore beat Bush only slightly, I believe, which isn't much of an accomplishment, obviously...
TallPine
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So where did Gore go to college? What advanced degrees does he have?
Too bad Gore wasn't elected, so all the people in Hollywood could talk about how stupid HE is.
Gore wasn't even smart enough to "steal the election"
DeltaElite
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There is a necessary balance between intellect, education and common sense to be truly successful.
Some people have an abundance of one and a complete absence of some.
Some get a balance of all three. Some people don't get any of the three.
Bush has a decent balance and the best staff ever assembled.
Belittle him all you want, but he is doing what needs to be done to protect us all and hopefully someday you will have the decency to thank him for protecting you.
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Quartus,
I am wounded, deeply wounded.
Of course, what I have seen of the adult world sucks, so I am in no hurry to mature.
Some people have an abundance of one and a complete absence of some.
Some get a balance of all three. Some people don't get any of the three.
Bush has a decent balance and the best staff ever assembled.
Belittle him all you want, but he is doing what needs to be done to protect us all and hopefully someday you will have the decency to thank him for protecting you.
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Quartus,
I am wounded, deeply wounded.
Of course, what I have seen of the adult world sucks, so I am in no hurry to mature.
twoblink
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Hmm...
I place very little on scholastics..
Bill Gates, and Michael Dell both dropped out of college..
They seem to know more about business and marketing then most men in the world sans Buffet... As much as I hate both (Bill produces a sub-par product, Dell is anti gun) I respect their business capabilities...
That said.
Hollywood and morons is like chicken and rice; PB & J, etc... They just go together like a horse and carriage.
I place very little on scholastics..
Bill Gates, and Michael Dell both dropped out of college..
They seem to know more about business and marketing then most men in the world sans Buffet... As much as I hate both (Bill produces a sub-par product, Dell is anti gun) I respect their business capabilities...
That said.
Hollywood and morons is like chicken and rice; PB & J, etc... They just go together like a horse and carriage.
Vladimir Berkov
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That will never happen. I can never thank a man who has personally done so much damage to American liberty.
DeltaElite
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Why does Vlad post the same thing in every post?
Very redundant and not very imformative.
Did GT finally give him the boot, so he comes here to "enlighten" us?
ack! I did postgrad work at Catholic U. (93-95 "abd" in Ed Psych and with a buck that'll get me a cup of coffee) and they sure had their fair of flakes but I didn't realized they'd turned out a loser like Lange! argh!
I would submit that the attacks on President Bush's perceived intelligence are based on two things: first off, if anyone has ever worked with folks from Texas (and I have) you'll find that *some* of them, especially when working around folks with 'northern' accents (I had come more or less straight from Wisconsin at that time - but we don't have any accent hey?) will intentionally undersell their (Texans) own intelligence as a defense mechanism. Then when they intellectually outmaneuver you, they can sit there and try hard not to grin while you stand there staring like a pole axed steer.
Secondly and more importantly, remember that all of these leftists label themselves as "progressives". The implication here is they are leading the way to a better world and everyone else will eventually catch on to their superior belief system and trundle along behind. Thus from the perspective of the "progressives" everyone who disagrees with them is either stupid or evil...or both.
The ongoing shock and denial among the left concerning the success of FNC, Rush, and the other conservative nontraditional media (including FREEP and this place) is due to the fact that it conclusively proves we're going in a totally different direction from them, but by their rigid world view that's impossible.
I would submit that the attacks on President Bush's perceived intelligence are based on two things: first off, if anyone has ever worked with folks from Texas (and I have) you'll find that *some* of them, especially when working around folks with 'northern' accents (I had come more or less straight from Wisconsin at that time - but we don't have any accent hey?) will intentionally undersell their (Texans) own intelligence as a defense mechanism. Then when they intellectually outmaneuver you, they can sit there and try hard not to grin while you stand there staring like a pole axed steer.
Secondly and more importantly, remember that all of these leftists label themselves as "progressives". The implication here is they are leading the way to a better world and everyone else will eventually catch on to their superior belief system and trundle along behind. Thus from the perspective of the "progressives" everyone who disagrees with them is either stupid or evil...or both.
The ongoing shock and denial among the left concerning the success of FNC, Rush, and the other conservative nontraditional media (including FREEP and this place) is due to the fact that it conclusively proves we're going in a totally different direction from them, but by their rigid world view that's impossible.
4570Rick
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To the hollywierd talking heads;
It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool then open it and remove all doubt.
It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool then open it and remove all doubt.
CampX
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Ya, and all the cocaine he snorted definitely made him smarter.....he's a certifiable MO-ROOOOON. And a damned dangerous one at that.
Monkeyleg
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Plus, Clinton molested young boys.
Can I prove that statement? No. But all I have to do is repeat it here if presented with a rebuttal argument.
"GW is an idiot because Dan Rather told me so." Repeat as often as necessary to bolster your position.
Can I prove that statement? No. But all I have to do is repeat it here if presented with a rebuttal argument.
"GW is an idiot because Dan Rather told me so." Repeat as often as necessary to bolster your position.
Joe Gunns
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Actors - people who spend their lives pretending to be somebodies else.
Politicians - people who spend their lives pretending to believe things they don't.
Academics - people who spend their lives studying very narrow, often esoteric, specialties.
Why does anyone take anything people in these professions say about the real world seriously?
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SAT PSAT GRE scores are irrelevant save as filters on those seeking higher education. Bottom line is: Did person get into college? IF so, puts him/her in top 30% of population. Did person graduate college? Put him/her in top 20% of population. Did person earn advanced degree? Puts him/her in top 7% of population. (Those percents are approximate, it has been a while since I read the figures.) College grades do not correlate with post-graduate career success, there is a demonstrated correlation between educational LEVEL and career success, in non-entertainment fields.
Fixation on how one politician or another compares in test scores, grades, IQ or University of graduation is like a little kid saying, "my-dad's-smarter-than-your-dad." It makes you feel superior, even if you're not. None of these factors has been shown to be a predictor of ability to manage the presidency.
The comparison made in the article of not only the educational levels, but also the direct experience of the two groups in world affairs is relevant in judging the probability that each group can understand the complexity of foreign affairs.
Joe
Politicians - people who spend their lives pretending to believe things they don't.
Academics - people who spend their lives studying very narrow, often esoteric, specialties.
Why does anyone take anything people in these professions say about the real world seriously?
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SAT PSAT GRE scores are irrelevant save as filters on those seeking higher education. Bottom line is: Did person get into college? IF so, puts him/her in top 30% of population. Did person graduate college? Put him/her in top 20% of population. Did person earn advanced degree? Puts him/her in top 7% of population. (Those percents are approximate, it has been a while since I read the figures.) College grades do not correlate with post-graduate career success, there is a demonstrated correlation between educational LEVEL and career success, in non-entertainment fields.
Fixation on how one politician or another compares in test scores, grades, IQ or University of graduation is like a little kid saying, "my-dad's-smarter-than-your-dad." It makes you feel superior, even if you're not. None of these factors has been shown to be a predictor of ability to manage the presidency.
The comparison made in the article of not only the educational levels, but also the direct experience of the two groups in world affairs is relevant in judging the probability that each group can understand the complexity of foreign affairs.
Joe
Vladimir Berkov
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Hey, I never said Clinton was better.
Joe Gunns - because up until recently they controled the vast majority of the media. In fact they're still trying to deal with the fact (true all along, but they've just discovered it) that many of us don't give a flying fig (got that one Oleg?) about what they think. That's why they're fighting so hard against homeschooling, private schools, gun rights and the like.
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