Who Makes A Good 7.62 Suppressor?

[Havok7416]

Obviously based on what I've read here baffle wear is an issue long-term. Can you buy a new set of baffles to drop in your can or do you have to buy a whole new suppressor?

 

[Theohazard]

Obviously based on what I've read here baffle wear is an issue long-term. Can you buy a new set of baffles to drop in your can or do you have to buy a whole new suppressor

You can't buy extra baffles. As far as the ATF is concerned, extra baffles are "silencer parts" and are regulated just like the silencer itself. From a legal perspective, if you ended up with extra baffles it would be just like having an illegal silencer.

Besides, the baffles on a good rifle silencer are welded together and sealed inside the entire unit. Often the manufacturer can cut the silencer open to change out the baffles if needed, but it's not something the user can do himself.

But most people won't shoot a silencer enough to wear out the baffles, not unless they're doing lots of rapid fire shooting and/or using it on a short barrel rifle. What's more likely to damage the baffles is a baffle strike.

Recently, a friend of mine had a baffle strike on his previous-generation 5.56 Surefire silencer. He sent it in to Surefire, and they were able to cut it open and replace the internal baffles, all while keeping the serialized part of the outer tube intact. And as long as the serialized outer tube of the silencer isn't changed, you don't need to file for a new tax stamp.

 

[Havok7416]

Silly me. Here we are not a page after mentioning rifle cans typically aren't user-serviceable and I'm getting them mixed up with pistols.

Good to know at least some manufacturers will rebuild for you if needed.

 

[basicblur]

...ignore the various manufacturers' dB reduction claims and instead look at independent back-to-back sound tests.

Ya gotta be careful when looking at "back to back" tests also. I've seen more than a few tests that don't appear to be apples to apples - fer instance, there is a new video comparing FRP in .22 cans, and surprisingly(?) they don't even include a silencer from probably one of the biggest makers around.

I've also seen comparison tests where someone may trot out their "top of the line" silencer, but scattered among the ones from other makers they're comparing you'll notice they're using the competitors' mid-range (in price & performance) models.

If / when comparing figures (just a part of your research), note that it takes a least a 3 to 4 db difference for most folks to discern a difference (tone may affect how loud you perceive a can rather than small db differences).

While you're shopping, if you have any interest in .22 you might as well prepare to get a rimfire can at the same time you apply for your centerfire.

One of our local dealers says he can't recall anyone he's sold a centerfire silencer to that did not later return and get a .22 can. He says he now points out this fact to everyone shopping for a centerfire can, telling them you might as well save time and apply for the .22 can at the same time.

I know I have more fun shooting silenced .22 than silenced centerfire.

 

[Zak Smith]

Typically if they have a similar tone, a 1.5-2 dB difference "may" be noticeable. Typically it's about 2-3 dB. If they have a significantly different tone (pitch), they might sound completely different and they could meter the same or be wildly different. This is due to the way different frequencies are weighted in a SLM and how loud we "think" different tones are.

Baffle wear is a possibility, but in "most" applications it won't ever be an issue even under extremely high volumes of fire. In certain applications, you may be able to see slight gas erosion at 10,000, but we're talking extremely short SBR's and things of that nature.

 

[AndyP]

......I also want to point out your .300 Blackout with the 16" barrel is about the gentlest combination in regards to suppressor wear there is. Especially so if you decide to shoot some subsonic rounds, where the Blackout really excels.
Everyones priorities are different, mine are weight and accuracy. You might see what kind of weight you would be comfortable with- do a simple test. Raid your kitchen pantry, and hang various oz. cans of food in a plastic bag on the end of the barrel. Bring the gun up to your shoulder, you'll figure out in a hurry how heavy you're willing to go. That should help narrow your search.

 

[Havok7416]

One of the things I'm starting to look into is a bipod. I've put them on guns before, but I really never had a use for them. Since I have that quad rail, I'm thinking my accessories will be moved around from time to time to suite my needs. I also found a brass catcher I like, so this thing is really starting to turn into one of those monster 10-pound ARs. I'm thinking I need a can opener accessory on the left side rail too....

 

[PingPang]

That's quite a mark-down from MSRP. I have been looking at one of those in addition to the others mentioned above. They seem pretty good also.

it was from a local shop who I had done business with several times before and he was no longer going to be carrying the Yankee Hill brand. I believe he told me it was at cost. Originally I was going to purchase the thread on version for 500 but then he offered a quick disconnect for $550. That feature is well worth $50

 

[Havok7416]

Yeah the value just on the QD mount seems to be around $100 for most companies.
Did he say why he was no longer carrying YHM products?

 

[Poor Knight]

Depends on what you want - do your research. Use on multiple platforms is a good idea - once you use suppressors you want them on everything. I went with Silencerco and now I'm pretty much stuck with them because of compatible mounting devices and ability to change from QD to different direct thread mounts. I have an Omega 30, a Saker 7.62 and an Omega 9k. My favorite is the Omega 30 for all-around rifle use. The Saker is the quietest and the best built. The 9k is a 9mm suppressor but rated for full auto .300 BLK sub and supersonic from an 8 inch barrel but with supersonic .300 blk is about 20 decibels louder than the Omega 30 - not really very quiet. I've heard great things about the Liberty Mystic as a great 9mm pistol and .300 blk rifle silencer as well but never used one.

 

[Havok7416]

Depends on what you want - do your research. Use on multiple platforms is a good idea - once you use suppressors you want them on everything. I went with Silencerco and now I'm pretty much stuck with them because of compatible mounting devices and ability to change from QD to different direct thread mounts. I have an Omega 30, a Saker 7.62 and an Omega 9k. My favorite is the Omega 30 for all-around rifle use. The Saker is the quietest and the best built. The 9k is a 9mm suppressor but rated for full auto .300 BLK sub and supersonic from an 8 inch barrel but with supersonic .300 blk is about 20 decibels louder than the Omega 30 - not really very quiet. I've heard great things about the Liberty Mystic as a great 9mm pistol and .300 blk rifle silencer as well but never used one.

I've been taking a hard look at the Saker. Quiet is good.
As I mentioned before, I will not be using a silencer on any other guns. The only reason I started looking into them was because the Blackout is so well suited to their use.