midland man
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I find plenty of them made in the over and under but don't see made in the sxs doubles in the 12g 3 1/2 chambering so if there's a company who does makes these can you guys give me info as to who is making some?? thanks!
who makes a sxs doublebarrel 12g with 3 1/2in chambering?
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cdb1
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Don’t know who makes one but there is no way I’d shoot a 3.5” shell in a SxS or O/U. Fact of the matter is I won’t even shoot one in a gas operated semi. I’m not tough enough.
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entropy
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Having shot 3" Mags through a few SxS's I'd pass on a 3.5" Mag one. 
farm23
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I do not know of anyone who makes a 12 ga 3 1/2" SxS and would not buy one if they did. I hunt birds with 16 ga SxS and love the combination but for ducks, geese, and deer where required I use a 3" gas operated. I once shot a 10 ga SxS and it was not pleasant after the second shot.
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midland man
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well I love the 3 1/2in magnum's as they are super on turkey and geese etc! and I would love on in a sxs but I also love singleshots and henry has their new one model H015-12 out so I am looking to add that one as well but hoped someone made a sxs in this mag chambering!
FL-NC
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Like most people, I wouldn't want to fire one. Thus, I feel that few if any are made.
The Bushmaster
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Wonder how our forefathers survived without a 3 1/2" magnum 12 ga shotgun?
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midland man
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lol they shot 8 gauge and larger back then as they were true mountain men tough!
entropy
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Anything larger was mounted to the boat.
cdb1
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I’ll shoot 3.5” shells out of a Browning Gold 10 gauge, but not 3.5” out of any 12 gauge.
Mizar
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There you go - Verney Carron Vercar Canardouze: https://www.verney-carron.com/juxtapose-canardouze-cal12-super-magnum
It can shoot both barrels at once! Sounds like a lot of fun (dislocating your shoulder)...
It can shoot both barrels at once! Sounds like a lot of fun (dislocating your shoulder)...
Gordon
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There you go guys ! You can pick up old (50s-70s) Spanish SXS realitively cheaply. Since I too shoot a Browning 10 gauge 3.5" for wildfowl and turkeys , it made sence for me to pick up a very nice AyA Matador 10 ga 3.5 SxS 30" full and full gun and cut it back to 19" , which kept the middle bead, which I made larger When them covies rise if Bob whites among oaks and loaded with 2 .oz of 7.5 plated shot the thing gets me a limit per rise
When them covies rise if Bob whites among oaks and loaded with 2 .oz of 7.5 plated shot the thing gets me a limit per rise 
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midland man
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nice I like that, one shot limited out!!There you go guys ! You can pick up old (50s-70s) Spanish SXS realitively cheaply. Since I too shoot a Browning 10 gauge 3.5" for wildfowl and turkeys , it made sence for me to pick up a very nice AyA Matador 10 ga 3.5 SxS 30" full and full gun and cut it back to 19" , which kept the middle bead, which I made larger
flightsimmer
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I bought a box of five 3-1/2" rounds some 20 odd years ago and I still have three of them.
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midland man
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yep I only shoot the big magnums only when I am shooting game for food I don't shoot them for fun! now I do once in a while take some 2 3/4in shells out to bust clays etc!
cdb1
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If a 3.5” chambered SxS isn’t marketed by someone like Stoeger it never will be. Quality SxS’s are marketed about 99% towards Upland Game hunters and there isn’t a place for 3.5” shells in that hunting realm.
Maybe some company like Uberti will start marketing punt gun reproductions. They could call it, “The Extirpater”.
Maybe some company like Uberti will start marketing punt gun reproductions. They could call it, “The Extirpater”.
1KPerDay
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Yes, I believe there's a model called the Retina Detacher made by Dislocated Shoulder industries.
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I find that 2 3/4" pheasant loads kill on both ends in my 12 SxS, so I can't imagine wanting to shoot a 3 1/2". Different strokes, I guess.
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Not to knock other people’s interests, but I really can’t see much practical advantage to 3.5” shells over 3” or even 2.75”.
Maybe hunting with buckshot or large pellet steel waterfowl loads?
The op could go old school and bump up to the 10 gauge. I’m not sure if there are any 10 ga sxs on the market, but browning did used to make Citori in the 10.
Maybe hunting with buckshot or large pellet steel waterfowl loads?
The op could go old school and bump up to the 10 gauge. I’m not sure if there are any 10 ga sxs on the market, but browning did used to make Citori in the 10.
Hoxviii
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2 3/4 to 3" isn't worth the bump, and 3" to 3 1/2" isn't worth it. But in the turkey magnum loads, a 3 1/2" shell has twice the shot as a 2 3/4", so if you are really, really stretching your shot it could make sense to go to 3 1/2 from 2 3/4.
Not saying I ever would, just that I could see why someone would make that jump - other than recoil. I have an old Stevens 311 SXS that will take 3" rounds; it only gets 3's if that's what I have laying around and I'm turkey hunting and it's cold enough that I have a good coat on. So it doesn't get 3's very often.
Over in the Parker forums there is a interesting discussion . Here is part of it.
I finally had the chance to pattern and test my Tungsten Super Shot hand loads today. There is no doubt that any double I have in 12 down to 20 will kill a turkey dead at 40 plus yards with these number 9s.
The first gun I tried was my late Uncle’s 20 gauge Franchi 48-AL. Two weeks ago I found a vent rib barrel for the gun with a screw in full choke (.030) to replace my uncle’s I.C. plain barrel with which he killed hundreds of quail. The pattern was fantastic at forty yards with the full choke.
I next tried the same one ounce #9 loads in my most tightly choked 20 double, a Fox Sterlingworth with .034 in the left barrel. Although at forty yards the pattern was to the right of the target, there were more than enough shot in the turkey to kill him dead.
Next I tried my 1 ¼ ounce 12 gauge loads in my most tightly choked Parker, a VHE with .040 in the left barrel. Again, no turkey could live through the #9s. The Tungsten 9s have the same penetration at 70 yards as lead 9s do at 15 yards, and the same penetration as number 5s at 57 yards according to the chart. This gun also patterned to the right, and I had the guns on target in a Caldwell Lead-Sled. These pure tungsten pellets not only went through heavy paper and two thick layers of carpet runner. The pellets left their imprints in 1/16 inch solid steel. I made a trap to recover my shot (pictured) and of the three shells with 3 ¼ ounces of shot fired, I recovered 95% of it. Undamaged I might add. Very important at $3 an ounce. I hope to kill one spring gobbler with my late Uncle’s gun, one with the 12 VHE, and lastly with a 20 either in Fox or Parker. I am sure these pellets will kill out to 50 yards, but I can’t see that far anymore to know I'm on a turkey's head with a simple metal bead.
The last photo is what 1 ounce of #9s from a 20 gauge will do at 40 yards.
Finally there is no worry about damage to vintage barrels as in the 20s the shot is inside a 28 gauge shot cup inside a 20 gauge wad, and the 12s have a mylar wrap inside the 12 gauge shot cup.
If he's correct there's no need for 3 or 3 1/2" 12ga shells.
I finally had the chance to pattern and test my Tungsten Super Shot hand loads today. There is no doubt that any double I have in 12 down to 20 will kill a turkey dead at 40 plus yards with these number 9s.
The first gun I tried was my late Uncle’s 20 gauge Franchi 48-AL. Two weeks ago I found a vent rib barrel for the gun with a screw in full choke (.030) to replace my uncle’s I.C. plain barrel with which he killed hundreds of quail. The pattern was fantastic at forty yards with the full choke.
I next tried the same one ounce #9 loads in my most tightly choked 20 double, a Fox Sterlingworth with .034 in the left barrel. Although at forty yards the pattern was to the right of the target, there were more than enough shot in the turkey to kill him dead.
Next I tried my 1 ¼ ounce 12 gauge loads in my most tightly choked Parker, a VHE with .040 in the left barrel. Again, no turkey could live through the #9s. The Tungsten 9s have the same penetration at 70 yards as lead 9s do at 15 yards, and the same penetration as number 5s at 57 yards according to the chart. This gun also patterned to the right, and I had the guns on target in a Caldwell Lead-Sled. These pure tungsten pellets not only went through heavy paper and two thick layers of carpet runner. The pellets left their imprints in 1/16 inch solid steel. I made a trap to recover my shot (pictured) and of the three shells with 3 ¼ ounces of shot fired, I recovered 95% of it. Undamaged I might add. Very important at $3 an ounce. I hope to kill one spring gobbler with my late Uncle’s gun, one with the 12 VHE, and lastly with a 20 either in Fox or Parker. I am sure these pellets will kill out to 50 yards, but I can’t see that far anymore to know I'm on a turkey's head with a simple metal bead.
The last photo is what 1 ounce of #9s from a 20 gauge will do at 40 yards.
Finally there is no worry about damage to vintage barrels as in the 20s the shot is inside a 28 gauge shot cup inside a 20 gauge wad, and the 12s have a mylar wrap inside the 12 gauge shot cup.
If he's correct there's no need for 3 or 3 1/2" 12ga shells.
Here's a bit more. Hope you find it interesting.
Here is the web site. Hal on the site sells it. He has multiple loads that he has developed. But he asks that when you buy from him and he shares the loads with you, that you don't share with anyone and I respect that. A pound costs $47 and #9s are all you need for turkeys and #7s for geese. The penetration is remarkable, as I could not believe the #9 would leave its imprint in steel at 40 yards. My only complaint is that no load uses common wads and they are available at Ballistic Products. But I doubt I'll ever shoot all 250 wads in my lifetime, and I had to buy both 20s and 12s.
They are killing turkeys with 28s and .410s at 40 yards.
https://www.tungstensupershots.com/
Here is a chart that shows 1.5 inch penetration with 9s into gelatin at 70 yards the same as lead 9s at 15 yards!
I see the shot is now $53/pound. Tariffs taking effect. I guess I'll have to operate on any turkey I kill to recover the shot from him.
http://www.trapshooters.com/threads/...sities.267784/
There are examples of the shot traps on there. Mine cost me $35 and scrap wood from a concrete project, and yesterday with three shots I recovered $9 worth of shot. Unless you don't mind throwing $3 an ounce away to test, the trap should be made before shooting these. That's what took me the longest, waiting to build the trap. They do caution that this stuff will kill so far that one has to be careful with your backdrop. I had flyers that went around the trap I am sure. Like a dummy, I made a holder for a roll of construction paper like one buys at Lowes and had it above the trap so I could roll it down and staple over the trap. Well the first shot filled it with holes, and it appears many layers deep into the roll. Powerful stuff.
Here is the web site. Hal on the site sells it. He has multiple loads that he has developed. But he asks that when you buy from him and he shares the loads with you, that you don't share with anyone and I respect that. A pound costs $47 and #9s are all you need for turkeys and #7s for geese. The penetration is remarkable, as I could not believe the #9 would leave its imprint in steel at 40 yards. My only complaint is that no load uses common wads and they are available at Ballistic Products. But I doubt I'll ever shoot all 250 wads in my lifetime, and I had to buy both 20s and 12s.
They are killing turkeys with 28s and .410s at 40 yards.
https://www.tungstensupershots.com/
Here is a chart that shows 1.5 inch penetration with 9s into gelatin at 70 yards the same as lead 9s at 15 yards!
I see the shot is now $53/pound. Tariffs taking effect. I guess I'll have to operate on any turkey I kill to recover the shot from him.
http://www.trapshooters.com/threads/...sities.267784/
There are examples of the shot traps on there. Mine cost me $35 and scrap wood from a concrete project, and yesterday with three shots I recovered $9 worth of shot. Unless you don't mind throwing $3 an ounce away to test, the trap should be made before shooting these. That's what took me the longest, waiting to build the trap. They do caution that this stuff will kill so far that one has to be careful with your backdrop. I had flyers that went around the trap I am sure. Like a dummy, I made a holder for a roll of construction paper like one buys at Lowes and had it above the trap so I could roll it down and staple over the trap. Well the first shot filled it with holes, and it appears many layers deep into the roll. Powerful stuff.
cdb1
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TSS shot has been around and handloaded by turkey hunters for quite a while. Federal finally jumped on the bandwagon and is loading TSS.
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