jaysouth
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Someone who usually has impeccable insider info in the shooting industry told me it was Redding.
Anyone heard this?
Anyone heard this?
Who makes Dillon dies?
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ReloaderFred
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I doubt it's Redding. Dillon jobs their stuff out to different shops. I've got a Dillon .38 Super die that's marked "Dillion". A neighbor of mine used to own a plating company in Phoenix and did some work for Dillon, but he told Mike Dillon to take his business elsewhere. He said he was hard to deal with and refused to take anymore of his business.
Hope this helps.
Fred
Hope this helps.
Fred
Gearhead Jim
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Just last week, the phone rep at Dillon told me they make their own sizing dies in the Dillon plant.
Kevin Rohrer
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I am pretty sure they make everything with their name on it. However, they DO sell some Redding dies, so they must have some type of relationship.
orionengnr
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Man, that's probably worth a buck or two. Like the stamp with the airplane flying upside down....
jmorris
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Speaking of bad stamps, many years ago I heard and engineering student tell himself "well, 5/8ths is too big."
Glancing over to find him dealing with a regular hex head 3/8 bolt, I told him that the correct wrench size was 9/16. After a trip back to the tool box he came back and went back to the bolt, then told me, "your wrong, 9/16 was too small, it's 1/2"."
Not having a degree in mathematics but knowing what I do know about the subject, I asked to see the wrench he was using.
I only stole it for the night and brought back a properly stamped wrench the next day. Have kept it all these years as a reminder to use your head despite information given to you to the contrary, even from "trusted" sources and that was before the Internet provided so many "good" sources of information. Everytime I think about it I wonder how many years it was used successfully before someone came along and used "the instructions" or how long it took to before it was realized that it had been stamped incorrectly, in an engineering department at a college no less.
Glancing over to find him dealing with a regular hex head 3/8 bolt, I told him that the correct wrench size was 9/16. After a trip back to the tool box he came back and went back to the bolt, then told me, "your wrong, 9/16 was too small, it's 1/2"."
Not having a degree in mathematics but knowing what I do know about the subject, I asked to see the wrench he was using.
I only stole it for the night and brought back a properly stamped wrench the next day. Have kept it all these years as a reminder to use your head despite information given to you to the contrary, even from "trusted" sources and that was before the Internet provided so many "good" sources of information. Everytime I think about it I wonder how many years it was used successfully before someone came along and used "the instructions" or how long it took to before it was realized that it had been stamped incorrectly, in an engineering department at a college no less.
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ReloaderFred
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That's quite a lesson, John, and having the proof in hand is even better.
I once questioned a Dillon rep why the die I have is marked "Dillion", and his reply was, "you should see some of the stampings we get when they come in". He told me at that time that the dies were jobbed out, but they may have added manufacturing capacity since then, since it was quite some time ago that I asked.
I know a guy in the industry who used to work at Dillon, and I'll see him at the SHOT Show next month. If I remember, I'll ask him who makes their die sets?
Hope this helps.
Fred
I once questioned a Dillon rep why the die I have is marked "Dillion", and his reply was, "you should see some of the stampings we get when they come in". He told me at that time that the dies were jobbed out, but they may have added manufacturing capacity since then, since it was quite some time ago that I asked.
I know a guy in the industry who used to work at Dillon, and I'll see him at the SHOT Show next month. If I remember, I'll ask him who makes their die sets?
Hope this helps.
Fred
jmorris
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Yeah, the kid asked me why I put it in my pocket at the time and enjoy the story when people ask why I have a single wrench hanging on the wall in my shop. Maybe the same sad stories on different subjects, along the same lines in other areas of life are the "entertainment". Like the teenage girl that was asked how much gas her car held, "Dugh, a full tank."
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A few months ago, a Dillon tech support rep told me they don't manufacture anything. I asked if they have the equipment to at least produce prototypes, but he said that even that is outsourced.
The reason this came up is they could not even turn down a shoulder on a backer rod for me, they simply sent me a replacement and asked me to file it down myself because they lack the equipment to do so.
The reason this came up is they could not even turn down a shoulder on a backer rod for me, they simply sent me a replacement and asked me to file it down myself because they lack the equipment to do so.
Crunchy Frog
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I heard it was Redding but cannot quote a source.
Gearhead Jim
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I got a .380 setup for my 650 this Spring, and lots of problems with the (rebuilt) press and finally go to volume loading recently.
Last few hundred rds I noticed my sizing die was slightly scratching the brass. I tried various polishing compounds to remove the grit or whatever, but couldn't do it. Dillon would polish the die for me if I sent it back, but I was in a hurry and just ordered a new one. Got it Friday, cleaned and installed yesterday, just discovered it's scratching the brass worse than the previous one.
Last few hundred rds I noticed my sizing die was slightly scratching the brass. I tried various polishing compounds to remove the grit or whatever, but couldn't do it. Dillon would polish the die for me if I sent it back, but I was in a hurry and just ordered a new one. Got it Friday, cleaned and installed yesterday, just discovered it's scratching the brass worse than the previous one.
ReloaderFred
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What are you using to tumble your brass? To cure the real fine scratching problem, I tumble my brass a second time for about 30 minutes in untreated corn cob. This takes the remaining polish grit off the brass and the scratching goes away.
Hope this helps.
Fred
Hope this helps.
Fred
oneounceload
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I seriously doubt it - tale a look through their catalog - NO way they make everything, especially all of the "soft" goods in their. China is my bet for that stuff.
Stev32k
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That is kinda like all the reloading companies selling scales and calipers with their names on them. I would be willing to bet a years income none of them have ever manufactured the first scale or caliper.
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Gearhead Jim
I would send them both back and let them polish them. No die should do that period.
I would send them both back and let them polish them. No die should do that period.
AzShooter1
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When I was a salesman for a different type of company I cold called on a machine shop. They were making dies for Dillon at the time. I'm sure most of their stuff is sourced out. What difference does it make though. They guarantee all their equipment with a wonderful program.
jmorris
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May be like the space shuttles that NASA used to build. Hundreds if not thousands of companies built parts from prints provided to them from NASA.
Wouldn't be shocked to see parts machined somewhere, heat treated by by another business and plated by another. It's done all the time to keep costs low and quality high.
Wouldn't be shocked to see parts machined somewhere, heat treated by by another business and plated by another. It's done all the time to keep costs low and quality high.
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