Who said it can't be done

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Every winter(ish) I find myself low on loaded pistol ammo. Using single stage press, the worst part for me is to stack bullets on the cases by hand. I've been toying with the idea for quite a while, so decided to go ahead and take a $40 gamble.

After looking closely it appeared to me that I wouldn't be able to use my Classic Cast iron press because of the huge bushing which raises the feeder up too far. That kind of stinks because I've a "kicker" and a chute that drops things into a bin and would have been ideal.

I had a El' Cheapo Lee collecting dust, so that's what it will stay on permanently. Used just for feeding, seating, and lightly crimping bullets. I like the "roll" crimp much better for copper plated bullets which is what I use the majority of.

I've found that like most things LEE, the feeder was close but in my opinion needed refinements to make it work better, more precisely and reliably.

The bullet tube flops around like a fish, one layer of black tape was ideal for a snug fit.

The "axle" for the linkage arm comes sloppy, so I added a nut on the very inside to take up the space and lock it in place. It's adjusted so the long bolt still rotates freely but eliminates all the side to side slop which was moving the attached linkage arm side to side.

The Z bend on the linkage that moves the bullet shuttle did the same thing, put all sorts of sideways push/pull on the shuttle making the bullet not align with the case mouth. I straightened the Z and used two shaft collars lightly pinched together to hold it straight.

I also chamfered(?) the sharp corners (carefully) on the bottom of the feed fingers to also help alleviate the issue.

13/16 Split collar I had to cut for clearance to the press, I put that half of it in my vice, and used a new very thin (.045) cutoff wheel with the vice jaws as a guide to keep it clean and straight.

The arm going to the actuating rod is just a piece if 16ga with a stiffening rib that I used "soft silver" to attach. Iv'e got thicker material but I was being lazy.

It took some thinking to get it put together, which side to put the arm on, added a 1/4" shaft collar as a spacer to get the bullet is in position soon enough, because the 13/16 split collar eats up a bit of ram travel.

All said and done, it works just fine and will alleviate the tedious and dreaded balancing act of bullet placement and dropping them onto a tray of charged cases knocking powder everywhere... Not in a hurry to do that anymore.

Not bad for $40 and some thinkinering.

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Every winter(ish) I find myself low on loaded pistol ammo. Using single stage press, the worst part for me is to stack bullets on the cases by hand. I've been toying with the idea for quite a while, so decided to go ahead and take a $40 gamble.

After looking closely it appeared to me that I wouldn't be able to use my Classic Cast iron press because of the huge bushing which raises the feeder up too far. That kind of stinks because I've a "kicker" and a chute that drops things into a bin and would have been ideal.

I had a El' Cheapo Lee collecting dust, so that's what it will stay on permanently. Used just for feeding, seating, and lightly crimping bullets. I like the "roll" crimp much better for copper plated bullets which is what I use the majority of.

I've found that like most things LEE, the feeder was close but in my opinion needed refinements to make it work better, more precisely and reliably.

The bullet tube flops around like a fish, one layer of black tape was ideal for a snug fit.

The "axle" for the linkage arm comes sloppy, so I added a nut on the very inside to take up the space and lock it in place. It's adjusted so the long bolt still rotates freely but eliminates all the side to side slop which was moving the attached linkage arm side to side.

The Z bend on the linkage that moves the bullet shuttle did the same thing, put all sorts of sideways push/pull on the shuttle making the bullet not align with the case mouth. I straightened the Z and used two shaft collars lightly pinched together to hold it straight.

I also chamfered(?) the sharp corners (carefully) on the bottom of the feed fingers to also help alleviate the issue.

13/16 Split collar I had to cut for clearance to the press, I put that half of it in my vice, and used a new very thin (.045) cutoff wheel with the vice jaws as a guide to keep it clean and straight.

The arm going to the actuating rod is just a piece if 16ga with a stiffening rib that I used "soft silver" to attach. Iv'e got thicker material but I was being lazy.

It took some thinking to get it put together, which side to put the arm on, added a 1/4" shaft collar as a spacer to get the bullet is in position soon enough, because the 13/16 split collar eats up a bit of ram travel.

All said and done, it works just fine and will alleviate the tedious and dreaded balancing act of bullet placement and dropping them onto a tray of charged cases knocking powder everywhere... Not in a hurry to do that anymore.

Not bad for $40 and some thinkinering.

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If I was picking a die for plated bullets I would choose a taper crimp. If I had something already I'd be dam sure I couldn't make it work before I moved on. My rcbs 30-30 die roll crimps and I do use it with berry's, but I trim ever case even and only minimally crimp.
 
Well whatever they call it, the bullet seating die (can also) crimps only the top edge of the case mouth, how much it does is up to the user.

Set just enough to remove any (if any) flare leftover after fully seating the bullet. Since I'm pretty stingy on the flare there's little to none left to begin with.

More importantly, since the cartridge chambers on the edge of the case mouth, over crimping would not be good.

The carbide FCD has caused me problems as it re-resizes the whole cartridge and the soft plated lead gets deformed by the case itself being pressed in, which squeezes the bullet and loosens the neck tension to where the projectiles are actually loose.

Come to mention it, I should actually send it back and have them open it up.

Last time I tried asking about it, nobody believed what I was saying and kept hammering the same old "you must be doing it wrong" bla.. bla... mantra at me, and I rather not go on that merry-go-round again.

No offense to anyone, just sayin'
 
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Well whatever they call it, the bullet seating die (can also) crimps only the top edge of the case mouth, how much it does is up to the user.

Set just enough to remove any (if any) flare leftover after fully seating the bullet. Since I'm pretty stingy on the flare there's little to none left to begin with.

More importantly, since the cartridge chambers on the edge of the case mouth, over crimping would not be good.

The carbide FCD has caused me problems as it re-resizes the whole cartridge and the soft plated lead gets deformed by the case itself being pressed in, which deforms the bullet and loosens the neck tension to where the projectiles are actually loose.

Come to mention it, I should actually send it back and have them open it up.

Last time I tried asking about it, nobody believed what I was saying and kept hammering the same old "you must be doing it wrong" bla.. bla... mantra at me, and I rather not go on that merry-go-round again.

No offense to anyone, just sayin'
I have had that happen with wadcutters.
 
Mine worked well for about the first 200 rounds before it started spitting bullets everywhere. These are really important to follow or it gets even worse.

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In the end, I just couldn’t stand the down time (“quickly”, isn’t quick enough when I have to take everything apart and boil the fingers every 20 minutes), might as well feed them by hand, especially since there is no collator (already have to pick them up and set them base down in a hole anyway) but I found other feeders that do what I need done reliably.
 
I have had that happen with wadcutters.

Just ordered the plain jane Lee 9MM FCD without the carbide re-resize ring. That way I can quickly crimp mixed cases using my other press and leave the seating die in place. I can crimp as fast as I can pick one up and get it in the press with that little $10 "kicker" spitting them out into the bin.

I was going to ask Lee if they could open up the carbide FCD die when I came across the plain one. Probably sell it now.

Had I known earlier ....dang Christmas shipping rush...
 
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