Why are 9mm Sellier & Beloit rounds so much smaller??

[Jim NE]

They are physically smaller than other brands (Fiocchi, American Eagle, etc.) I can fit a spent S& B casing inside a spent casing of another brand. The S&B casing is labeled 9x19 and the others are 9mm Luger, but they're all supposed to be the same cartridge (as is 9mm para). And they're smaller when you eyeball them, too. The spent S&B 9x19 case is noticibly shorter. How can that be? Is the 9x19 actually an interchangeable cartridge rather than an identical carttidge?

My Ruger P95 is designated "9x19mm"

 

[GLOOB]

I can fit a spent S& B casing inside a spent casing of another brand.

Since the brass expands to fit the chamber, this is impossible. Unless you're confusing 9x19 with 9mm Br. That's .380. Take another look.

 

[Tomcat47]

Pictures...Pictures.... Please?

Lets Take a look at this..........

I was just getting ready to order a case of the S & B

 

[KodiakBeer]

I just compared some S&B 9x19 brass to several other brands. They're identical.

S&B labels .380 brass as a "9mm Court", so I think that may be confusing you. The .380 is shorter but it should be the same diameter as 9x19.

 

[Jim NE]

Sorry guys...MY MISTAKE. No, I haven't been drinking...I picked up all of my spent cases from the range because my brother reloads. I inadvertantly picked up some .40 S&W along with my casings. I don't own a .40 or any other caliber of centerfire semi-auto, so it didn't occur to me I was comparing the S&B casing to something other than a 9mm.

This is why I try to keep my life simple with fewer calibers...I'm easily confused.

GO ahead and order the S&B ammo. I really like it. My gun shoots a bit more accurately with it.

 

[clutch]

I picked up some S&B 9mm (150 cases) last week, some of it was .380, some was 9x19. I'm not home, I'm on vacation so I can't give you the exact markings. No big deal, I have a .380 and I'm looking seriously at buying a 9mm XD(m).

For some reason, 9mm is the brass most often left on the ground at my club. That is followed by .380 then .40 and then .45.

If I get the XD(m), I won't even need to buy brass, I've picked up a ton of that stuff over the years.

I can't remember when I've picked up revolver ammo other than my own.

Clutch

 

[Jim NE]

No, I haven't been drinking...

This may be a sign that I need to start...

 

[rondog]

Time for glasses there, buddy!

 

[Jim NE]

I already have glasses...I'm thinking magnifying glass!

 

[mtnkid85]

I just pulled a 9x18 piece out of my 9x19 range pickups. That one had me scratching my head when I first noticed it!

 

[Smaug]

Funny thread. Glad you had the stones to man-up and admit it, instead of just disappearing and leaving some n00b with doubts about S&B.

 

[exavid]

The .380 is also known as the 9mm Kurtz which means 9mm Short in German. It's one of the rounds I really don't like reloading, you have to be very careful with them because the shell mouth is so thin it's very easy to crinkle them if the shell holder in the press is even a tiny bit out of alignment with the die. When loading my 9mms and .40s there's no problem but those little ones go a lot slower.

 

[Nushif]

The .380 is also known as the 9mm Kurtz which means 9mm Short in German.

Kurz. Actually I think ... Unless I've totally lost touch with my first language. Which may have happened.

 

[exavid]

My error, kurz it should have been, typo.

 

[WardenWolf]

Are you SURE you didn't get 9x18 ammo instead?

 

[mljdeckard]

It's ok, you saw the mistake. This is a good example of why, ESPECIALLY IF YOU RELOAD, you need to be well-organized and keel things seperate, and hand-examine every case.

 

[Jim NE]

Thakns for bearing with me, everyone.

For some reason, 9mm is the brass most often left on the ground at my club.

The amount of brass that our local indoor pistol range picks up daily is incredible. Barrels worth, I would guess. Almost all of it centerfire. At $10 a box, budget 9mm ammo is about 20 cents a round. I suppose you could reolad it cheaper than that, but my guess is most people don't bother.

 

[crm7290]

Where do you find 9mm ammo for 10 a box?

 

[Smaug]

crm7290: natchez shooter's supply, for one. I get emails from them probably every other week with 115 gr. 9mm FMJ ammo for that price, before shipping and such.

I can get it locally for around $12 if I'm patient.

 

[StrikeFire83]

Where do you find 9mm ammo for 10 a box?

Walmart sells 100 round Value Packs of Winchester White Box 115 gr 9mm for 19.95. That's around $10/50 if you don't mind buying in 100 round amounts.

 

[BamAlmighty]

Reminds me of the time a friend loaded 9mm into his .40 S&W.

The look on his face when he chambered a round and the 9mm fell right through the barrel was priceless.

 

[mljdeckard]

I would pay money to watch that.