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Why are Canadians So Anti-Gun?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Evergreen, Jan 14, 2011.

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  1. Onmilo

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    Canadians per capita are no more anti gun than Americans.
    The problem is there are far fewer Canadians than Americans and the most vocal tend to be the left leaning liberal city dwellers.

    I know quite a few rural Canadians and they are by no means whatsoever antigun, quite the contrary.

    ETA making a statement like that is also like saying most Australians are anti gun which is about as broad and untrue as a statement can get!!
     
  2. alfack

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    Because half of them came from France! :)
     
  3. IMTHDUKE

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    While visiting there I was told that if they encountered anyone that needed to be shot...they called the Americans.
     
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    Why are Canadians So Anti-Gun?

    I'm sure not all of them are anti-gun, but those that are anti-gun have the same affliction as the anti-gun folks here. :scrutiny: Brain damage. :what:

    Woody
     
  5. Evergreen

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    Interesting posts, quite different from what I expected. Especially, I thank the Canadian members for sharing their views.

    Now, what I would like to ask is what do I have to do to carry a firearm for self-defense while I am travelling through the wilderness of Alberta and British Columbia? I have always dreamed of hiking around Mt Whistler, Banff National Park, as well as many of the other beautiful mountain and forest areas in these provinces. However, because of the remote location and the dangers of wildlife, I just cannot feel comfortable trekking through these areas unarmed.

    I think I would probably want to carry a 12 ga shotgun with me in grizzly country and would also like to have my .44 mag as my sidearm, either loaded with 44 spl or 44 mag. I'm not sure how feasible this is in the Canadian wilderness. Would some type of hunting license allow for me to do this?

    Perhaps, this should be a separate post in itself in the Legal forum. I am really interested to know what type of crazy legal procedures I would have to go through to be able to carry. Perhaps, National Parks are just off limits for carry in Canada. I can understand that , considering our own gun laws. Anyway, I would like to know how an American goes about proceeding with this, if it is at all possible.
     
  6. jcwit

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    I bet you have to rent a rifle while there.
     
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    Now that right there is a super mindset for you closest neighbor and bigest trading pardner.

    Really makes one want to rush up north and contribute to their tourist industry.
     
  8. GEM

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    I do know progun Canadians but just a funny story. We hired a new guy from Canada and I was invited to go to lunch with him to make him feel at home.

    He was a wise cracking type of guy. We asked him how he like Texas. He started a bit of routine about the differences. After all Toronto and TX are different. Been to Toronto quite bit, BTW.

    So he says: You know you can get a permit to carry a gun in TX - :eek:.

    He was ready to do a bit about how silly this was. But I said - OH, like this one!

    He looked and was quiet. He only lasted a year or so.
     
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    Those Canadians I know tend to be more trusting of authority figures than most Americans I know.
     
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    Some posters are forgetting that people living in glass houses should not throw stones.
     
  11. KodiakBeer

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    He bypasses Canada and goes to Alaska.
     
  12. dogrunner

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    Bottom line is that the Fenian's were really right! Kick the damned British OUT of N.A.! Their mindset is both poisonous and contagious.

    Far as the French go, I well remember being in Alaska in the 60's when the secessionist movement in Quebec was sounding really serious and I recall the Prime Minister of B.C. publicly stating that if Quebec did so, then B.C. would become the next U.S. State!!

    Still, not all Canadians, French too, are opposed to the concept of owning and bearing......just as is the case here you've the ultra urbanite in direct contrast with the balance of the folks.............I recall an RCMP officer I once worked with telling me just how damned outlandish our fourth amendment was, said he never could get used to reading a warrant to a closed door! Then too, that guy was half French & half Scot, told me he used to write his reports in French for the English speakers and the reverse as well!!!!.............Real cultural divide there, fellows!
     
  13. duncan

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    Dogrunner is right.

    I spent five years working for a French company. Year after year we invited different Frenchmen to go shooting at the range and they refused. Told us that only police officers and the military should have guns. Really scared of guns. Glad I'm not around those few anymore.

    But they love good food, good wine, and being outdoors - just not hunting - so we have that in common with them. Yeah, I love beer too and so do a few of them secretly. I'm glad to have known them for those experiences. Shooters the French are not.
     
  14. BIG45-70

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    Our liberals here are just like your liberals down there. Gun ownership in Canada is as high as third in the world. We are very pro gun. Handguns are illegal for us to carry concealed or otherwise. For defensive use in the bush shotguns are used with very short barrel lengths (mines a rem 870 with a 12.5 inch) as they are legal and widely available. Handguns are used for target shooting and idpa, ipsc stuff. We also love the 303 british cartridge.
     
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    From my experience living in Toronto, the attitudes are similar to U.S. cities, maybe a little closer to San Francisco. The press is generally leftist so most of what you read is anti-gun. The people are split right down the middle just like here, with the conservatives having a very small voice.

    Thanx, Russ
     
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    Well if that’s true … how come I have a gun safe full of guns in my house. The only poisonous thing around here is your prejudice.
     
  17. Messenger Guard

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    As posted earlier, half came from France which has seen few conflicts it didn't wish to surrender in. The other half are the offspring of Tories which supported the King and were promptly thrown out of the United States by our gun toting ancestors. On a more serious note, they have bought into the liberal/socialist notion that the government will take care of them.....they have traded their freedom for security. At the core of gun owners psyche, we all known what that gets you.
     
  18. snake284

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    I used to go up to Alberta and then over to Red Deer for work reasons. I tell you, there are a lot as you say, but then again there are those just like us there. A lot of hunters up there in Alberta. It's a beautiful place and riddled with big Whitetail, Muleys, Elk, and Moose. I knew one guy and his brother that worked for our company that always invited me to go hunting. I just never could make it happen. Heck one time I was in a restaurant eating and a guy came over to me and ask, "Are you from the U.S.? I said," yes how did you know?" He says, "Just a hunch." Anyway, then I found out he was a dentist and then he asked me to go goose hunting. Man I couldn't because I was on a job assignment, but my mouth was watering just thinking about it. What a friendly jesture, I couldn't believe it. Well, Red Deer is kinda in a Rural area out between Calgary and Edmonton, so I guess it doesn't reflect the Urban mindset.
     
  19. snake284

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    Also, as for the Britts, go to the Guns and Ammo forum and you'll find some good ol' Britts there, gun owning and freedom loving as anybody here. We even have a guy named English Bob. Also we have Aussies and a few NZ guys. In fact we got together in Southern Tennessee this past Memorial Day on a guys farm for what has become known as the SE shoot and our favorite son of New Zealand came for that. He was a blast! Anyway we had a great time there.

    Bottom line, everywhere you go you find liberal idiots and good solid folks whether in Europe, England, Canada, OR the U.S. They're EVERYWHERE They're EVERYWHERE! LOL!!!
     
  20. Radagast

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    I think you will find that the majority of Canadians are not anti gun, they just don't have an informed opinion on the matter. In much the same way Americans can be surveyed and found to believe that better gun control laws are needed, but when asked about specifics they believe in the right to keep firearms at home & in CCW laws. In other words they just aren't informed as to the true situation and are basing opinions on the lies the media put out.

    In Canada the chattering and political classes have a stronger lock on the spread of information than in the USA, their national media is very similar without the right/left/libertarian breaks seen in the USA. Also the status quo of their gun laws predates internet activism.

    Canadas gun rights groups are strong and growing. A few years ago they beat a semi auto rifle ban before it was announced, last year they came within two votes of removing the Federal firearms registry with a private members bill, thats pretty much the equivalent of Ron Paul getting within two votes of reopening the machine gun register in the US Congress.

    I expect the cause of freedom to advance in Canada, it may be decades before they go shall issue CCW, but it will happen. Its 23 years since Florida went shall issue and there are still a couple of states to change. Change does take time, especially when it requires gradual erosion of attitudes that have become ingrained over decades.

    One thing that shooters from the USA should keep in mind is that ideas of freedom, or restrictions on freedom that become the mainstream accepted viewpoint in the USA end up being the mainstream viewpoint in the rest of the western world.

    Just from an Australian perspective:
    In the 60s the USA had the civil rights movement. At the same time Australia gave up on the 'white Australia' immigration policy and changed the constitution to give natives the vote.
    In the 70s you had the push to legalize abortion via your supreme court, in Australia police stopped charging abortion doctors.
    In the sixties and seventies soft core porn became socially accceptable (to a degree) in the USA. Within a couple of years the government censors were gone in Australia for the same type of product.
    In the seventies and 80s there was the push to legitimise homosexuality. Ditto here.
    In the 90s Clinton pushed to ban semi auto guns and after a massacre here in 1996 the Australian government did just that.
    Currently there is a push to normalise homosexual marriage in the USA and the same is happening here. It hasn't yet been successful in the USA, or here.

    Basically, freedoms, wether you consider them good or bad, that are normalised in the USA become the norm in the rest of the Anglosphere. When CCW is the norm in the USA, backed by Supreme Court rulings, then I expect it will slowly spread to places like Canada, New Zealand & Australia and later to other countries that try to emulate the freedoms of the USA. Of course, I may have to wait a couple more decades to see it, but I'm willing to wait. :)
     
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