Why are people buying up mags that you probably won't be able to use?
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The Geneva Convention has nothing to do with HP bullets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hague_Conventions_(1899_and_1907)
This is THR -- can we lay off the tinfoil govnerment-is-out-to-get-us-conspiracy garbage?
ID-shooting
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Erm, the Gov't is out to get us.
Back to topic, still waiting for someone from CA to chime about that they do with their "pre-ban" mags.
Since this new proposal come out of CA it makes sense that is where the precedence will come from.
Are you still able to use them in public? What happens to them legally when you pass on?
No, they're not as a matter of fact.
The posting of a statement that government agencies have purchased a trainload of ammunition, and then making some ominous statement implying that it is meant to be used on the civilian population, with no evidence of that whatsoever is the tinfoil junk that doesn't belong in a logical, rational discussion.
Have any evidence of your statement that "the Gov't is out to get us" outside of that? All I see is the normal lawmaking process happening.
Welcome to THR -- we have a little higher standard of discussion here.
It takes a lot of ammo to train and qualify all of the sworn personnel.
And yes, when you are the gov't you can afford to do that with the same ammo issued for duty use.
Well, maybe they can't afford it, but they sure try.
exavid
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You have to remember that those .40 rounds are going to be split up to the Border Patrol, USCG, and a lot of other government agencies that have traditionally carried small arms. When you consider the number of personnel in those agencies and the amount of initial training and qualifications they do need a lot of ammo. It only makes sense that all of the ammo would be of the same type they use in the field because besides making their firearms act the same way in training as in actual use it really simplifies the logistics of providing ammo. I think we can take off our tinfoil hats on this one. I did.
ID-shooting
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If you don't call Feinstein's proposed ban "out to get us" you dont know what "out to get us" means.
Also, don't take this wrong, no need to welcome or preach to me about the rules. I was a member here during the last ban and got to celebrate when it expired.
Back to the post, is does seem buying is slowing down. Just came back from picking up a new Sig and was able to buy two additional 15-rounders $35 each. They even had plenty of normal capacity AR, mini, and AK mags on the shelf.
Also, don't take this wrong, no need to welcome or preach to me about the rules. I was a member here during the last ban and got to celebrate when it expired.
Back to the post, is does seem buying is slowing down. Just came back from picking up a new Sig and was able to buy two additional 15-rounders $35 each. They even had plenty of normal capacity AR, mini, and AK mags on the shelf.
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Maybe they'll have a mag exchange program next. One mag and get a $200 gift card or for food?
Skylerbone
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Or you can register your firearms in exchange for a free yellow badge and tattoo...wait, someone did that already.
DaisyCutter
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I can't wait for $150 Glock magazines again. I'll sell all my old "between-ban" mags for a mint and just replace 'em with LEO Only mags. The job has it's occasional perks.
Sorry, but a proposed law that has repeatedly been submitted year after year, and year after year failed to even make it to the Congressional floor for a vote, is not an indicator of the federal government's overall aims, by any measure whatsoever.
In fact, the failure of the '94 AWB to be re-upped, and the failure of subsequent AWB proposals to even make it to a vote for the last 8 years, is a clear indicator of the opposite.
Welcome back, then.
Skylerbone
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It was a singular event that doomed firearms in England and the same in Australia. Anyone else catch that Chicago's homicide record reached 500 for the year this week? Now it's ammo to use, last week it was 12th page Metro coverage. Politicians choose carefully the time and place that serves their purpose. Record heat wave? Global Warming! Clean Energy Investment! Killer winter storm? ...crickets.
The point is, Rights grabbers are gaining traction, especially with public sentiment. Asking the wrong questions, "What legitimate sporting purpose do 100 round clips serve?" gets you a lot of head nods. It speaks to the ignorance of the general populace in regards to their own Constitutional Rights. It may not pass but the pressure placed on conservative legislators has been ratcheted up considerably. We're seeing the consequences of that same sentiment as it applies to tax policy. A classic double-end short.
The point is, Rights grabbers are gaining traction, especially with public sentiment. Asking the wrong questions, "What legitimate sporting purpose do 100 round clips serve?" gets you a lot of head nods. It speaks to the ignorance of the general populace in regards to their own Constitutional Rights. It may not pass but the pressure placed on conservative legislators has been ratcheted up considerably. We're seeing the consequences of that same sentiment as it applies to tax policy. A classic double-end short.
tulsamal
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I agree that Feinstein's AWB bill won't pass. But was it even meant to do so in its current form? People on the Left aren't generally stupid. You would start your bill out with some "wish list" stuff you realize can't pass. Then you can cut that stuff out later as part of a gracious compromise. I think that's what the NFA stuff is all about.
On the other hand, the bill that will be introduced on the first day of the new Congress does have me concerned. Small and "limited" and to the point. Ban all new mags over 10 rounds. Make them illegal to sell, buy, or transfer. Such a bill could easily end up as a rider or amendment to some other bill. Like a budget bill that has been hammered out over weeks. That's a lot more likely than some big bill getting voted on by itself.
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Skylerbone
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Or by presidential fiat or that of the BATFE, or perhaps the new commission or a yet to be appointed "Gun Violence Czar". Any law that cannot survive the legislative process is no longer doomed, in fact it becomes an unconstrained juggernaut. Wiretaps, Homeland Security, Proposition 21, Bloomberg.
exavid
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The run on magazines is partially due to the unknown future actions of the government. If they will be granfathered again it's a good way to get any you want now while you can. There's also the thought of many folks that if the price is going up they might be a good investment in the future. Worst case scenario would be large cap mags would be made completely illegal with no grandfathering. Obviously most people seem to be expecting something like the previous AW ban. It's the uncertainity that's the cause of the current price run up.
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