Why are shotguns the "Sacred Cow" of gun restrictions?

[oneounceload]

Thats a pretty unneeded attack. The point was the elite shoot competitions with thier shotguns at fancy country clubs and whatnot. Probably a good part of congress to be honest. They certainly dont want to ban thier own guns. The same reason the cigars arent taxed to all hell like cigarettes are in this country.

Wrong - you seem to have never been to a gun club. if you had, you would see young kids starting out, a lot of older retired folks whose only hobby is clay shooting, along with a LOT or working middle class who believe that shotguns are not just to be made into 18.5" barreled zombie killers. They also don't wear tinfoil hats and think everyone is out to get them. There are more lower middle to upper middle class shooters than upper class, so the "mucky-mucks BS name is an attack on your part. Instead of being derisive and divisive, try being part of the solution to keep all gun owners together. Your attacks are using the same argument you accuse those "mucky-mucks" of using.

 

[Sam1911]

Oneounce, I don't think he was saying that all shotgunners are elitist hypocrites. I think he was intending to say that those member of the gun-banning set that are elitist hypocrites, but who shoot at all, tend to be shotgun games enthusiasts, and so extend a blanket of protection over "their" sport.

That's not terribly clear from his first post, but certainly jibes with some things I've seen and been told.

A certain gun rights activist of my acquaintance once described to me how he'd been invited by knee-jerk Democrat party platform-voting Senators, on several occasions to come down to their cars parked in the Senate parking garage, where they proceeded to show him some beautiful new clays or trap shotgun they'd picked up... TOTALLY oblivious to the fact that possessing such a thing in DC (in the Senate building no less!) would make them an instant felon if caught.

That doesn't make ALL, or MOST shotgunners elitist hypocrites. It just means that there are those in power who tend to be against us but who will make legislative wiggle room to keep their own hobbies and interests out of the cross-hairs.

 

[barnbwt]

That doesn't make ALL, or MOST shotgunners elitist hypocrites. It just means that there are those in power who tend to be against us but who will make legislative wiggle room to keep their own hobbies and interests out of the cross-hairs.

Exactly; we need to get the "important ones" involved in rifle games, so they'll stop trying to ban them outright. Should my next email to a pol include a bet that I'm a better shot than him?

TCB

Barnbwt, tell me you're serious about the M90 project!

Sure am. Everything's being disassebled and cleaned as I speak. I'll open a Shotgun thread when there's something to be said

TCB

 

[ljnowell]

Wrong - you seem to have never been to a gun club. if you had, you would see young kids starting out, a lot of older retired folks whose only hobby is clay shooting, along with a LOT or working middle class who believe that shotguns are not just to be made into 18.5" barreled zombie killers. They also don't wear tinfoil hats and think everyone is out to get them. There are more lower middle to upper middle class shooters than upper class, so the "mucky-mucks BS name is an attack on your part. Instead of being derisive and divisive, try being part of the solution to keep all gun owners together. Your attacks are using the same argument you accuse those "mucky-mucks" of using.

Wrong? You should know a lot about that, as you are wrong here again. I belong to a private club. You are preaching about being divisive, with the posts you have made here? Seems to me that you have taken what one person said out of context, attacked, were called out on it, and attacked again. Hmmm, seems to be a real pattern here. I dont think anyone said that EVERYONE that shoots trap is like that. I certainly didnt. Dont let that get in the way of your very non-high road attacks. Here is my post again:

Thats a pretty unneeded attack. The point was the elite shoot competitions with thier shotguns at fancy country clubs and whatnot. Probably a good part of congress to be honest. They certainly dont want to ban thier own guns. The same reason the cigars arent taxed to all hell like cigarettes are in this country.

Can you show me where I said that ALL shotgun shooters are "mucky-mucks?" I bet you cant! Just keep spewing your attacks though. Maybe a moderator will do something about it.

Oneounce, I don't think he was saying that all shotgunners are elitist hypocrites. I think he was intending to say that those member of the gun-banning set that are elitist hypocrites, but who shoot at all, tend to be shotgun games enthusiasts, and so extend a blanket of protection over "their" sport.

That's not terribly clear from his first post, but certainly jibes with some things I've seen and been told.

A certain gun rights activist of my acquaintance once described to me how he'd been invited by knee-jerk Democrat party platform-voting Senators, on several occasions to come down to their cars parked in the Senate parking garage, where they proceeded to show him some beautiful new clays or trap shotgun they'd picked up... TOTALLY oblivious to the fact that possessing such a thing in DC (in the Senate building no less!) would make them an instant felon if caught.

That doesn't make ALL, or MOST shotgunners elitist hypocrites. It just means that there are those in power who tend to be against us but who will make legislative wiggle room to keep their own hobbies and interests out of the cross-hairs.

You may as well give it up. Its obvious that he is the only one here that is right, and if you disagree with him then you have NEVER been to a gun club or you know absolutely nothing. Thats a heck of a way to convince people there is no elitism, isnt it?

 

[Sam1911]

Can you show me where I said that ALL shotgun shooters are "mucky-mucks?" I bet you cant! Just keep spewing your attacks though. Maybe a moderator will do something about it.

Jeez, chill folks.

YOU didn't say that but another poster DID. Who knows if he meant it or not.

At any rate, the question's been answered.