Why aren't you a cowboy action shooter?

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CAS is neither "dress up" nor reenactment, didn't you read any of the previous 330 posts?

I am sorry! My bad! What you are telling me is that all those people in those funny cowboy outfits dress like that in real life! LOL.

I still can't figure out the ones with the spurs in the posted vids. I don't see horses at most of the matches, but I am sure they must have rode the horses to the matches and hence why they have the spurs.

It may not be dressup for them, but it would be for me.

Oh wait. SASS requires dressup. Yeah, I did read much of this thread. Maybe you didn't?

It is cool that people do that and I have enjoyed watching one of the matches, but it isn't for me.
 
Red Cent, I agree that posting pictures of holsters that cost more than most of my guns is not really helping convince people that it can be done inexpensively

Yes, but....

Man, if I had a holster named after me, I would post a picture of it too!!

That is pretty cool.
 
I'd like to address the post claiming that Cowboy Action Shooters "look down their nose" at other shooting disciplines.

I've shot the "Cowboy" game from New England to Florida, from North Carolina to New Mexico and I have never met a Cowboy Action Shooter that didn't support all shooting sports. In fact, in my experience, most shot another game prior to CAS and a lot still do shoot other games.

For example, there are other shooting games that aren't my cup of tea. While I enjoy an occasional round of sporting clays, I think skeet is right up there with watching golf on TV as far as "fun" goes. I understand and appreciate the skill and dedication it takes to do it well, it's just not my thing... and I certainly don't "look down my nose" at the game.


Red Cent said:
People, I am 69 years old and have met the ubiquitous slice of homosapiens. I guarantee I have never met a better bunch. And for all of you people who are embarrassed to say it, RRR is a pardner to ride the river with. Can't name them all that qualify.
You will meet a couple of bad eggs. Part of life.

That's been my experience too.

Hey "old man". I see you fell out of retirement. Us too... soon.
 
451, yours is an unfortunate event. Most of us are not that way. I have never met a more friendly bunch. The interesting thing (I am a couch psychologist), you cannot tell the janitor from the President. At least at first.
Seriously, the cowfolks are the best.
Go to another club. Try it again if you are willing.
 
Powder puff loads. OK.I know you are not interested in shooting such light loads. BUT, can you beat me if we both shoot light loads?
I shoot a 105gr 38 with 3.2 grs American Select chronographed at the world championship at 795 fps. Ruger 3-screw w/4 5/8" barrel. Use the same load in my rifle. The M97 uses either Noble 2 3/4 dram equiv #7 low brass or Estate, same specs. These are factory shot shells. They are about the same as 15gr of shotgun powder. When I load shotgun, I put 10grs of American Select under pink Claybusters with 7/8 ounce of #8s. I only have to knock the poppers down. Nothing else. And fast. Spell "recover time".
This fantasy game is that you ring steel. You do not have to put dents in the steel. Just hit it. The magnum guys will screw up $10,000.00 worth of steel in no time. We put limits on the loads for this and other reasons. When you shoot thousands of rounds each year, I want my pistols to hold up. And my hands and wrists. And if you hang the target correctly, a slow bullet will not kill you. I have been hit with shotgun splash fromthe knockdowns more than I ever have with a rifle and pistol.
You don't have to shoot my loads. Load to the limit. And I hope you are in my category :).
 
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Another fun part about Cowboy Action Shooting happens at Annual, State, Regional, and Championship matches, and that is the side matches. Pocket pistol, derringer, speed pistol, rifle, shotgun, couples shoots, team shoots, even cowboy clays.

At the Southwest Regional match in Texas, they have what they call the "shoot and scoot." You shoot a total of 100 rounds of 38 special and 8 rounds of 12 ga. 20 different rifles and pistols each loaded with 5 rounds, and 2 rounds each out of 4 different shotguns. All this on the clock, with the loaders cheering and jeering you on. Kind of the iron man of cowboy shooting.

http://s181.photobucket.com/albums/...ED/?action=view&current=CaC2010SnSBroKing.mp4
 
Red Cent is not quite as fast as he used to be but still neat to watch. Red River Ray is chained lightning in a pair of cowboy boots. Both have seen their share of championship buckles and trophies but both are gracious gentlemen who go out of their way to help other shooters. I shoot my game which is vastly different from theirs. I shoot hefty black powder loads in original guns, dress to the nines, of course both of them do also, and I don't get in a big hurry going from one shooting point to another. Nice thing is there are places for all of us and those in between. Different categories allow people to compete against others with the same interests in guns and shooting styles. I have met many champions and all go out of their way to be helpful to others.

Several of us spent three days this past weekend in a tent at the Dixie Deer Classic showing off old west guns and gear, talking to spectators about cowboy action shooting and the displays, and operating a wax bullet shooting gallery for kids from age 6 to 60 so they could experience shooting single action revolvers. I think about 4000 rounds went down range at steel targets. Lots of smiles all around.

I am sure there are some snobs and jerks in CAS but they don't seem to last long. I was welcomed with open arms when I attended my first match as a spectator back in 1995. I do my best to treat newbies the same.

451 Detonics, just give another club a try. On the other hand, a perceived attitude can be the result of a perceived attitude. Just something to ponder. ;)
 
kayak-man wrote,
Would it be possible to have a division where you don't need all four guns?
I think that's your answer. With a division where you only needed one gun you could get in pretty cheap and then get the folks hooked on the competition to where they would be doing everything they could to get into the other divisions.
 
am sorry! My bad! What you are telling me is that all those people in those funny cowboy outfits dress like that in real life! LOL.

I still can't figure out the ones with the spurs in the posted vids. I don't see horses at most of the matches, but I am sure they must have rode the horses to the matches and hence why they have the spurs.

It may not be dressup for them, but it would be for me.

Oh wait. SASS requires dressup. Yeah, I did read much of this thread. Maybe you didn't?

It is cool that people do that and I have enjoyed watching one of the matches, but it isn't for me.
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I can't believe you're a Texan and don't have a pair of jeans, a long sleeve button shirt and some sort of leather shoes. That's all it takes to play as far as "costume" goes. No cowboy hat (nor ball cap either) no cowboy boots, just not athletic shoes or "combat boots, in fact you don't even have to wear shoes. Several of our ranked shooters don't. If you wanted to just take your suit coat off (or not) and shoot in your "Sunday go to meeting clothes" you can. Again, you may read the previous posts, but it is obvious you haven't (or don't want to) understand them.
 
Shortly before I started playing this game only one handgun was required and there were stages where that one handgun and either rifle or shotgun were used. At many clubs the handgun(s) was staged on a table. No drawing from a holster. People involved in the sport wanted to shoot more. If I take the time to go to a match I want to send all the lead downrange I possibly can. The current scoring system also does not lend itself to scoring for those using fewer firearms. Two pistols became the norm and most scenarios now include all four guns. I do not foresee new categories using only one handgun. This subject comes up on a fairly regular basis but never goes anywhere. Obviously those in a voting position already have all the necessary guns but that is the way of all sports. I don't expect to see .22's being used by adults. They are acceptable for the younger generation shooters 12 and under. NCOWS, a more history based shooting group does have a category allowing one handgun but their clothing requirements are more strict.
 
JTQ:"I think that's your answer. With a division where you only needed one gun you could get in pretty cheap and then get the folks hooked on the competition to where they would be doing everything they could to get into the other divisions."

I know quite a few clubs around the country that allow just that at their monthly matches and for the exact reason you mentioned. Not too many folks around the country can afford to go plop down a few thousand $$$ for all the gear in the world. We understand that and make every allowance possible. Build your collection at your own pace and have fun while doing it.
 
No powder puff loads here. .45 Colt, 200 grain bullet stepping out at about 800 fps
200 grains at 800 fps is 284 foot-pounds of energy...that's about 2/3 the energy of a 9mm pistol round...and you're shooting it out of a heavy lever gun.

Red Cent said:
I shoot a 105gr 38 with 3.2 grs American Select chronographed at the world championship at 795 fps.
That's like shooting 22 rimfire. 147 Foot-lbs.

It looks cool...but the cost, age of participants(old crowd), and costumes turn me off...the costumes the women seem to wear have the opposite effect ;)
 
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youngda9: 200 grains at 800 fps is 284 foot-pounds of energy...that's about 2/3 the energy of a 9mm pistol round...and you're shooting it out of a heavy lever gun.

No argument there. It's not like I'm going hunting with that load. Simply wanted to point out that if you want to shoot heavier loads you're more than welcome to.

P.S. The picture is obviously of me shooting my rifle but, I also use that ammo in my pistols. ;)
 
Lol I guess as we get older we like older things.. Cowboy action shooting is great but cost sucks.
 
I'd love to get into Cowboy Action Shooting. I have two guns (a lever action rifle and a single action revolver) that would qualify. I'd love to get into some competition with them and try my hand against some great shooters.

Unfortunately, I'm born, raised, and live in the shadow of the Big Apple. And, well, the only guys around here that wear chaps and Stetsons....well....they could be the fifth member of the Village People. LOL

If they dropped the dress up requirement, they'd get a lot more people willing to participate.
 
How many times does it have to be stated that dressing in chaps, vests, fancy boots, spurs, wild rags, big expensive hats,etc. is not "required"? Yes, if you have difficulty reading and understanding simple english, cowboy action shooting, simple as it is, is probably not for you. Smokin Gator
 
Heck, I probably dressed like that 50% of the time I was in "The City" (less than 8 times total though)

People wear stranger stuff all the time in the city, "the basics" are hardly goofy.
 
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