Why Colt Will Fail!

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Colt really needs a wonder nine to keep themselves relevant. Maybe they can team up with Steyr and produce the M pistol. I'd like to see a bigger framed 45acp version too.
 
I've heard genereally good stuff about the Cowboy and NRM 1991's, prices don't look that bad, but in my regular circle of 8 gun shops in a 75 mile radius I have not seen a NIB Colt of any sort sitting on shelf in over three years! If you discount the old style 1991A1 and a very very rare AR you could make that 10 years. Something way bigger than Venturino (no jokes ;) ) is the problem...

Dealers in our area:

Single action= Ruger or Italian clone

1911= Kimber, S/A, or cheap Llama copies

AR= Bushmaster

Wonder if Colt or it's distributors are just not dealer friendly
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My distributor said that colt sends out what they want and when they want to send it. He put in an order for one of the charcoal blue WWI commemoratives and it never came. A year before , they called him up with
" How Many Anacondas would you like to buy at $1,000 your cost?"
" That number would be exactly None". Around here, nobody is going to pay the mark-up on a $1,000 anaconda.

He has gotten a trickle of the new pythons, a few of the cowboys when they were out and the occasional 3rd gen SAA. The arrival of these is unpredictable Sometimes they just show up and sometimes they are in response to a customer order- which may o rmay not b filled.

The Colt 1911s - new series 70 through -1991AI are another story. The distributor's retail outlet generally has a few of these on hand. but if he ordered one special, it would be a matter of luck if they sent it out.

On the other hand, Colt is quick to respond to customer service issues-or was during the mid and late '90s.
 
But what the heck do I know? I don't have a marketing degree ...
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Well, I do. You, my friend, are spot-on in your observations.

Interesting--I've heard more bad stuff on the 'Net about Fulton Armory than any other military rifle shop, yet there also seems to be far more satisfied customers posting stuff about that very same joint than any other rifle builder. Clint McKee's presence on rec.guns seems to be effective for sales, as predicted by certain marketing fundamentals.
 
More straw grasping...

The end is surely nigh if the keep wasting their time with that kind of crap. Too bad. I think Colt could really do well if they had some competent management. But this stuff is just disgraceful.
 
Yeah suing someone over patent infringement is just a waste of money. :rolleyes:

That M-4 contract saved their bacon and they know it. What Colt appears to be doing is getting that lawsuit before the ban expires, so you won't be able to buyan M-4gery from someone else.

While some of you may gleefully revel in the demise of one of America's oldest firearms companies... I'll keep right on buying them.

Maybe it's time to call the custom shop?
 
Not into the AR thingy so may be way off... but I thought bushmaster HAD basically taken over Colts millitary contracts in the last round of bids:confused:
 
Yeah suing someone over patent infringement is just a waste of money.
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They aren't suing them over patent infringement. Oh its buried in the list of things they are suing over, but mostly its the M4 trademark they want. "You can't call that an M4 because all M4s are Colt products according to contract." Its stupid especially since the M4 is a military spec and so it should belong to the nation not to an individual manufacturer. But hey I don't know how the DoD wrote the contracts so maybe they have a case.
 
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I have been reading some firearms history, and Colt has always made bad decisions.

Colt watched as auto-pistols became popular over in Europe, content with their wheelguns. The damn company had to really be hurting before it would try something new. When John Browning approached Colt with the 1911 design, they were smart enough to accept it, but it had to fall in their lap and they had to lose all manner of business in Europe before they would wake up.
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It's painfully obvious that you haven't read enough history. :rolleyes:
John Browning started designing pistols for Colt in 1900.
He didn't "approach" Colt with it. He was working UNDER CONTRACT for Colt when it was designed.
The 1911 was not Colt's first semi-automatic pistol. It wasn't even their first .45acp pistol. The Colt Model 1905 was a Browning designed .45 pistol. By 1903 Colt already had .32acp and .38acp pistols in production. The .25acp and .380acp came along in 1908.
 
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F!#$ Colt! Colt's are not even worth $300 to me; they are VERY bad fitted. A Rock Island Armory 1911 is better fitted & machined. Colt's might have been good quality guns almost a century ago but not anymore! They really need to do something with themselves - make a good fitted gun with a few extras and NOT over priced like they are now!!!
 
ROTFLMAO!
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Don't know what you are saying and it doesn't matter anyway because nothing in the world will get me to buy another Colt; I had THREE and sold them shortly after because all of them where VERY POORLY machined and fitted! If they would offer guns like the Gunsite Colt nicely machined & with night sights and for a lower price (much lower, $1300 is WAY TOO MUCH), I would maybe be in the market for a Colt again.
BTW, What is their problem with mis-shaped trigger guards & slide ends and cock-eyed hammer pin holes???
 
If we could keep it civil and watch our language...

I will say this.. I don't really understand an SAA costing $1400 new when the Italian clones are less than a third of the price... labor costs don't seem to make that much of a difference, since USFA is selling a really nice clone for $500-600.
 
No need to really flame anyone for liking what they do. I happen to like Colt 1911's. I also think they are better than most 1911's out there. My first was a stainles nrm gov't model. Yes the slide to frame fit is a little loose, but it is stone cold reliable. The barrel to slide fit is rock solid tight, and its groupings prove it. I just picked up another gov't model, a blued old roll marked model. Slide to frame fit is a little tighter than my stainless. Barrel to slide is rock solid tightas well, and the groupings prove it. I personally will probably only own Colt 1911's, but I am not going to knock someone for owning another brand.
 
I like Colt.
I wish them well and hope they survive and flourish. I do agree with some other posters concerning some of Colt's prices being too high. (SAA, Gunsite).
I've been fortunate that every Colt I've owned was well made and functioned flawlessly.



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Colt watched as auto-pistols became popular over in Europe, content with their wheelguns. The damn company had to really be hurting before it would try something new. When John Browning approached Colt with the 1911 design, they were smart enough to accept it, but it had to fall in their lap and they had to lose all manner of business in Europe before they would wake up.
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They didn't lose any business to europe, the agreement was that Colt would manufacture and market JMB's designs in the western hemisphere and Fabrique Nationale would get the Eastern Hemisphere.

Shouldn't feel so good about buying from Uberti and other Italian companies, a lot of North African illegal labor. OTOH Colt's Union is EVIL.
 
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