Ragnar Danneskjold
Member
anchorman, I think those people you are referring to are anomolies. Most collectivists who are in favor of for instance, government controlled health care, are also in favor of keep police as the ones with the guns. They see the government health department as responsible for keeping society healthy, and the police as responsible as keeping people safe. It all comes down to a "do this for me" attitude. Each aspect of life being handled by a specific government agency on behalf of a society as a whole, not on the individual level with individual choices and responsibility. The converse is also true. I want to be responsible for my own health. I don't want you to be responsible for it, and I don't want to be responsible for yours. I also want to be responsible for my own safety. I don't want you to be responsible for it, and I don't want to be responsible for yours. We already have police to handle safety emergencies and Emergency Rooms to handle medical emergencies. But everything that falls outside the scope of those last-ditch services should be up to the individual and only the individual. I won't demand you pay for me, and I refuse to pay for you. Cops, 911, and ERs is what I feel is the "just right" amount of government social services. Just enough to keep away anarchy and people bleeding to death. But beyond that, it's an individual issue. Guns, healthcare, what car I drive, light-bulbs I use, etc. All should be individual choice, and in no way shae or form controlled, regulated, mandated, or paid for by the public. Because "the public" really just means us. You making me pay for you. I'm sorry, but I refuse.