Why Do Prisons Use The Mini-14 ?
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MarshallDodge
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What Denis said.
W.E.G.
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USED TO USE the Mini-14.
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http://uspolice.com/federal-bureau-of-prisons
Hiring Process and Eligibility
To qualify as a correctional officer, an applicant must reach several requirements including:
1. Bachelor’s degree
2. Age 37 or under at time of appointment
3. The willingness to complete 200 hours of training during the first year on the job
4. Completion of 120 hours of training at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center
5. Qualify to carry three types of firearms including: 12 gauge shotgun, 9mm pistol, and M-16 rifle
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http://uspolice.com/federal-bureau-of-prisons
Hiring Process and Eligibility
To qualify as a correctional officer, an applicant must reach several requirements including:
1. Bachelor’s degree
2. Age 37 or under at time of appointment
3. The willingness to complete 200 hours of training during the first year on the job
4. Completion of 120 hours of training at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center
5. Qualify to carry three types of firearms including: 12 gauge shotgun, 9mm pistol, and M-16 rifle
Murphy4570
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What's wrong with the Mini-14?
I won't say cheap because there is centainly cheaper stuff to be had, but its a good value and a good service rifle. Have a friend who is a corrections officer, they have the new 581 patrol rifle, he liked it enough to buy his own, which he let me shoot and I myself bought one. And yes, I do own an AR, but I like the new mini. Its a light weight and easy to handle and a decent shooter ( 1 1/2 to 2 moa)
XM855
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This is only true for federal prisons right? I ask this because a kid from my high school dropped out and went to be a prison guard, and I can tell you he definitely did not have a bachelor's degree...
BADUNAME37
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Two words:
Inexpensive
Reliable
I am stating that from owning one back when they first came out. I put 20,000 rounds through that thing, easily, it was stainless, and when I sold it, it looked just like new!
It never hiccupped or burped once, never! We would buy hundreds of rounds nearly daily and shoot them all that evening. Another guy had one just like mine and he had the same results from his - never a jam, never a malfunction and always looked like new (of course we always kept them well cleaned and well oiled).
Inexpensive
Reliable
I am stating that from owning one back when they first came out. I put 20,000 rounds through that thing, easily, it was stainless, and when I sold it, it looked just like new!
It never hiccupped or burped once, never! We would buy hundreds of rounds nearly daily and shoot them all that evening. Another guy had one just like mine and he had the same results from his - never a jam, never a malfunction and always looked like new (of course we always kept them well cleaned and well oiled).
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RONSERESURPLUS
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Hello all, The Mini-14 is not bad Weapon, and while I am not the Biggest Ruger fan here, it is a weappons useable for the situation, it does hold up in uuse and I'm sure Bill Rugers Folks did offer a Great Deal on a Contract run of them! Cheap, no, Inexpensive when compared to many others YES!
HorseSoldier
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I'm suspecting a lot of them were procured at a time when law enforcement, including Corrections, did not favor military-looking weapons. Those rifles can't get shot much, and so are aging more gracefully than weapons that are run harder and used more in trainng.
WardenWolf
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I can give you one good reason: the flat profile of the Mini-14 is better for shooting over railings and out of towers than an assault rifle with tower front sights and irregularly shaped handguards. The battle rifle style is just more appropriate to that role.
rcmodel
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Also, at the time they started using them, many prison guards were former GI's who had training & experience with either the M1 Garand or M-14 service rifle.
Not a different manual of arms with the Mini-14 to retrain them all.
rc
Not a different manual of arms with the Mini-14 to retrain them all.
rc
HorseSoldier
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Correct -- same way getting your foot in the door with the FBI is harder than getting your foot in the door with local law enforcement. Requirements for state prisons and local/county jails are going to be different, based on available recruiting pool and the pay/benefits they can offer, etc.
Up here in AK, DOC (which runs all the jails and prisons up here) I think HS diploma or GED is the education minimum, and there's no age limit for recruiting. Rest of it would be similar or the same.
wow6599
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Because they work.......
Lloyd Smale
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because theres alot less paper work if the guard misses.
onthecount
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NYS uses the Colt AR-15's, Remington 870, and Smith and Wesson Model 10 for its Department of Corrections.
swiftak
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Because they don't actually want to shoot a prisoner that they are aiming at?
Redlg155
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Correctional Agencies typically choose weapons based upon cost and the individual preference of the current or previous director. I've worked in departments that used the Mini 14 as well as the AR15.
Bachelor degrees are typically not required to work as a Corrections Officer and those that do require secondary education usually waive the requirement based on previous experience.
As for weapons systems, with the exception of CERT and other specialized teams, Corrections agencies usually have older, but functional weapons. .223 fmj, 12 ga buckshot and .38 special 158 gr LRN or 9mm FMJ is the norm.
To make a long story short, Correctiona? Agencies are driven even more by cost and resist replacing weapon systems unless absolutely necessary.
Bachelor degrees are typically not required to work as a Corrections Officer and those that do require secondary education usually waive the requirement based on previous experience.
As for weapons systems, with the exception of CERT and other specialized teams, Corrections agencies usually have older, but functional weapons. .223 fmj, 12 ga buckshot and .38 special 158 gr LRN or 9mm FMJ is the norm.
To make a long story short, Correctiona? Agencies are driven even more by cost and resist replacing weapon systems unless absolutely necessary.
PX15
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Maybe,
When the tv series "A Team" (George Peppard) was dropped from the line up the 13,000,000 Mini-14's used in the series were sold, cheap, to the Prison system?
Jesse
When the tv series "A Team" (George Peppard) was dropped from the line up the 13,000,000 Mini-14's used in the series were sold, cheap, to the Prison system?
Jesse
merlinfire
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Hate to break it to the mini bashers, it has nothing to do with the supposed inaccuracy of the pre-580 series minis, and everything to do with cost.
Nicky Santoro
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Lots of snarky responses about the Mini, likely from those couch commandos who never owned one. At distances that shots would have to be taken in a prison, the Mini is more than accurate enough. Where the Mini really shines is in it's ability to tolerate a level of neglect that would choke an AR.
jerkface11
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In what world is a Mini14 cheap??
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