why does Hornady not sell primers

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Hornady sells reloading equipment, brass and bullets, they make ammo, so why don't they sell primers? Did Hornady sell primers in the past?

Snowman357
 
betting it's an EPA permit issue. and/or an investment vs return issue. Primer facility requires a lot of special stuff to set up, and it's all expensive
not like the current admin is big on handing those kinds of permits out.
 
Probably because they make a higher profit by selling them in their ammunition. Plus, they had an explosion at their primer facility a few months ago that killed one of their employees.
www.ksnblocal4.com

Victim identified in deadly explosion at Hornady plant near Grand Island

One woman died Friday morning in an explosion at Hornady Manufacturing west of Grand Island.
www.ksnblocal4.com www.ksnblocal4.com
 
2ndtimer said:
Probably because they make a higher profit by selling them in their ammunition. Plus, they had an explosion at their primer facility a few months ago that killed one of their employees.
www.ksnblocal4.com

Victim identified in deadly explosion at Hornady plant near Grand Island

One woman died Friday morning in an explosion at Hornady Manufacturing west of Grand Island.
www.ksnblocal4.com www.ksnblocal4.com
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If this incident happened at a Hornady plant, while mixing priming compound, then they definitely make their own at this point. I don't believe they always did. They just don't sell them as metallic components.....yet.
Hornady factory ammo has been growing by leaps and bounds the last 10 years.
 
I’m going to go out on a limb here and say it’s because reloaders are cheap, picky and complain a lot. We’re terrible customers. It’s a wonder anyone still sells components. Let’s not pretend selling components is some cash cow for the manufacturers. It’s not. The money is in selling products, not components.
Y’all young people might not remember this but there was a day when car manufacturers sponsored dealership sales of components for building custom cars. You could go to the local Ford dealership and order an LTD with a 427 SOHC and a four on the floor if you wanted one that way. They all stopped doing it when the costs got higher than the incomes. Liability, EPA regs, lack of oversight… things change.
 
GeoDudeFlorida said:
I’m going to go out on a limb here and say it’s because reloaders are cheap, picky and complain a lot. We’re terrible customers. It’s a wonder anyone still sells components. Let’s not pretend selling components is some cash cow for the manufacturers. It’s not. The money is in selling products, not components.
Y’all young people might not remember this but there was a day when car manufacturers sponsored dealership sales of components for building custom cars. You could go to the local Ford dealership and order an LTD with a 427 SOHC and a four on the floor if you wanted one that way. They all stopped doing it when the costs got higher than the incomes. Liability, EPA regs, lack of oversight… things change.
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Complaining about primers has become a Art Form!
 
GeoDudeFlorida said:
I’m going to go out on a limb here and say it’s because reloaders are cheap, picky and complain a lot. We’re terrible customers. It’s a wonder anyone still sells components. Let’s not pretend selling components is some cash cow for the manufacturers. It’s not. The money is in selling products, not components.
Y’all young people might not remember this but there was a day when car manufacturers sponsored dealership sales of components for building custom cars. You could go to the local Ford dealership and order an LTD with a 427 SOHC and a four on the floor if you wanted one that way. They all stopped doing it when the costs got higher than the incomes. Liability, EPA regs, lack of oversight… things change.
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The circle in the attached image is the overall primer market. The tiny dot in the middle, which has been magnified so as to actually be seen, is the reloading market. CB935460-C87C-4547-9086-931105748123_1_105_c.jpeg
 
fxvr5 said:
www.americanrifleman.org

An Official Journal Of The NRA | Hornady Primer Facility Explosion Claims The Life Of One Worker

On Friday Oct. 13 an explosion at the chemical compounding building at a Hornady Manufacturing facility west of Grand Island, NE, claimed the life of one worker. A nearby hospital treated two others for non-life-threatening injuries—concussion symptoms and smoke and fume inhalation.
www.americanrifleman.org www.americanrifleman.org
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Could be that it was the priming compound for rimfire cartridges......?..........and not centerfire primers...?
 
kidneyboy said:
The circle in the attached image is the overall primer market. The tiny dot in the middle, which has been magnified so as to actually be seen, is the reloading market.View attachment 1182841
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If primers were 40 dollars per 1k how many semi trailers would you buy, and how big would your mortgage be.... right after a shortage the market is hot and there is money to be made if your motivated.
 
Mark_Mark said:
Well… why don’t they sell primers?

$80 a brick is good money, pre-plandemic was $30! that’s decent profit
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Don't suppose their costs have gone up, too? A good enterprise risk management program would tell them to keep a certain volume on the shelf to hedge against supply chain risks (imagine if their costs of primers 2x+'d too?), and the production demand doesn't seem to have gone down much for loaded ammunition which is I believe their main product. I wouldn't be selling primers either if I were making them. And if word got out the people might get their undies in an uproar.
 
SingleActionAndrew said:
Don't suppose their costs have gone up, too? A good enterprise risk management program would tell them to keep a certain volume on the shelf to hedge against supply chain risks (imagine if their costs of primers 2x+'d too?), and the production demand doesn't seem to have gone down much for loaded ammunition which is I believe their main product. I wouldn't be selling primers either if I were making them. And if word got out the people might get their undies in an uproar.
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Hyper Inflation is a myth for the price fixers
 
SingleActionAndrew said:
Don't suppose their costs have gone up, too? A good enterprise risk management program would tell them to keep a certain volume on the shelf to hedge against supply chain risks (imagine if their costs of primers 2x+'d too?), and the production demand doesn't seem to have gone down much for loaded ammunition which is I believe their main product. I wouldn't be selling primers either if I were making them. And if word got out the people might get their undies in an uproar.
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Primers are extraordinarily cheap to make. They were making money selling them for well under $25 4 years ago. The components and cost to make primers has not tripled. Keep in mind you can still buy factory 9mm for around $12 per 50. It should be going for 30-40 if primer costs (and the raw materials to make primers + projectiles) really tripled.
 
packetloss said:
Primers are extraordinarily cheap to make. They were making money selling them for well under $25 4 years ago. The components and cost to make primers has not tripled. Keep in mind you can still buy factory 9mm for around $12 per 50. It should be going for 30-40 if primer costs (and the raw materials to make primers + projectiles) really tripled.
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THANK YOU!
 
packetloss said:
Primers are extraordinarily cheap to make. They were making money selling them for well under $25 4 years ago. The components and cost to make primers has not tripled. Keep in mind you can still buy factory 9mm for around $12 per 50. It should be going for 30-40 if primer costs (and the raw materials to make primers + projectiles) really tripled.
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Then stop buying them. Better yet, go into business and undersell the competition.
 
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