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Why I'm Armed: The Latest Family Slaughter
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kir_kenix
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This article does not provide very many details, but it doesn't sound too good. Hopefully the Texas courts will take care of the offenders, but its still scary to hear about these things happening, especially in rural areas. I hate hearing about acts of violence like this, but its a good example and reminder of the evil in this world that we need to protect ourselves and our families from.
johnmcl
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Hey Doc,
That article was buried deep in A section in the Washington Post this morning. I found it chilling to read.
Semper Paratus....
That article was buried deep in A section in the Washington Post this morning. I found it chilling to read.
Semper Paratus....
Intrepid Dad
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Reading this just reinforces why we must be prepared. The article noted that there is a teenage girl in the family. It will be interesting to see if she is also a victim of this rampage or had something to do with it.
rbernie
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rbernie
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The cynic in me wants to place money on the daughter being in on planning a 'robbery/home invasion' that went wrong....
Lots and lots of meth problems out thataway....
Lots and lots of meth problems out thataway....
1911Tuner
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Awful. What the hell is the world comin' to...
Being armed may not have helped in this one, if the little slugs torched the house with the family asleep inside. That's why, even with the pistol in the nightstand and the shotgun over the door...I still like to have a mouthy dog or three on patrol inside the house at night.
Awful...
Being armed may not have helped in this one, if the little slugs torched the house with the family asleep inside. That's why, even with the pistol in the nightstand and the shotgun over the door...I still like to have a mouthy dog or three on patrol inside the house at night.
Awful...
rbernie
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This just in from CNN:
So it wasn't meth - it was over a boy.
So it wasn't meth - it was over a boy.
its curious when you think about it. Scenarios that come up first off are grudge killing aimed at the mysteriously absent teenage girl. Then possibly a "kill the family so buffy can marry stewie" type deal.
Shows why even a retarded beagle can be good to have around.
Shows why even a retarded beagle can be good to have around.
NGIB
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My little mutt is kind of mean to everyone but me but he sure is a vigilant little fellow. Any noise or movement outside the house sets him off and he constantly scares the pizza guy and the UPS guy. He's never more than 3 feet from me when I'm in the house, and yes, he's treated as well as any of my kids. You can't buy loyalty or protection as reliable as the old dog...
Back in my day (which was a long time ago) the girl would have simply eloped with the boy and then spend the rest of her life regretting it. But today it seems more reasonable to these children to just wipe out their families. This sort of report is all too common. We have indeed raised a generation of vipers.
I agree with the comments about a dog, but wonder - would one have made a fuss if a family member was involved? Apparently this situation involves a daughter who was willing to kill her father, mother, and younger brothers. In such a case regular solutions and precautions might not work.
No, I don't have any better answers...
No, I don't have any better answers...
1911Tuner
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Can't speak for anybody else's dog, but mine cut loose whenever anybody comes down the private road to the house, and they don't let up until they're satisfied that they're okay to be there...and that includes me, even when they know it's me. Once I'm in the house, though...they settle down.
Probably wouldn't have made a difference in this case one way or another. Kid comes in with a gang of friends...who expects'em to do a thing like this. The rest of the family would have been caught with their pants around their ankles, even if they'd known they were there.
Owlhoot. We surely have...or at least some people have.
bogie
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I don't think the dog would have mattered... I think the kids probably grew up watching too much bad television, rather than communicating with their parents... And that's a two-way street, folks...
Cosmoline
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Keep a long gun with a tactical light, and if anyone intrudes onto your property esp. at night keep it leveled at them.
Those who would blame TV, video games or "kids today" don't know enough about history. This sort of thing has been happening all along. Be prepared or be dead.
Those who would blame TV, video games or "kids today" don't know enough about history. This sort of thing has been happening all along. Be prepared or be dead.
1911Tuner
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Yeah. That light makes a good target.
Cosmoline
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That's not been my experience. Both me and my ex held off potential nogoodnicks out in the wild north with lighted long guns. The classroom theory is it's easy to shoot at a tactical light. In reality it gives you enormous advantage, and with a long gun you can blow their heads off if they go for iron. I felt pretty dang secure, at any rate, and still do. But then again this is a PURELY DEFENSIVE application. If you're on the offensive like a cop or soldier a tactical light giving your position away may not be such a good idea. For defending a rural homestead, the lighted long gun is part of a package deal along with the dogs, signs and a verbal warning to get the @#%#! out of there post haste. When dealing with some drunk nogoodnicks in an oversized pickup looking for trouble, you don't want any ambiguity. A blinding light tends to back them down. Worked for me anyway.
Depends on the dog, my rotties, were naturally protective, didn't have to learn anything, also my wife's Lab, that one was as smart as they come, but my 6yr old Lab, now I don't know what she would do, but if she hears anything, she goes to code red which is all I need. Folks always used to ask me, with my Rotties, got him for protection? and I would say, no he has me for that.
one45auto
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What concerns me the most is that many children today seem to have absolutely no conscience, none whatsoever. Refuse to indulge them, deny a so-called need or request, cause them to get angry, etc. and their first impulse is to kill you. I remember a case in Maryland where a son shot his father because he refused to let him borrow the car to go out on a date, and now we have an entire family paying the price because the parents squashed a teenaged relationship?? Sickening.
I could pull the switch on the electric chair to fry one of the little miscreants with a clear conscience.
I could pull the switch on the electric chair to fry one of the little miscreants with a clear conscience.
1911Tuner
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Just last year...mid-summer, IIRC...a 16 year-old and her 21 year-old Gothic boyfriend beat and stabbed her mother to death because she was afraid of him and wouldn't allow him in the house unless her husband was present.
When she came in from shopping and found him there...she told him to leave.
It happened less than a mile from me, as the crow flies...in the Cotton Grove community near Southmont.
They stuffed her body in a tool storage shed behind the house and went for pizza, and rumor from law enforcement suggests that she may have been still alive when she went into the shed. From what I understand, she was a fine lady who was loved and respected among her family and in her community.
A pair of worthless little pukes if there ever was one.
When she came in from shopping and found him there...she told him to leave.
It happened less than a mile from me, as the crow flies...in the Cotton Grove community near Southmont.
They stuffed her body in a tool storage shed behind the house and went for pizza, and rumor from law enforcement suggests that she may have been still alive when she went into the shed. From what I understand, she was a fine lady who was loved and respected among her family and in her community.
A pair of worthless little pukes if there ever was one.
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