Why is 18.5" barrel best for defense?

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Ah, yes, the Auto Burglar.

I fired one, once. In 20 gauge, with 7/8 oz loads of birdshot. It was hard to control, and recovery for the second shot took longer by far than it would with a standard shotguns such as an 870.
 
Ah, yes, the Auto Burglar.

I fired one, once. In 20 gauge, with 7/8 oz loads of birdshot. It was hard to control, and recovery for the second shot took longer by far than it would with a standard shotguns such as an 870.

So, you have a minor issue with.....
because of its light weight, moderate caliber, limited range, and short length -- for women, the elderly, and children who might require it
It's not a perfect first gun for little Johnny?? :D :evil:
 
Shorter barrels are more handy for moving around

Moss makes two very similar model 500 shotguns, big 5 sells them for the same price,

One has a five round magazine tube with an 18' barrel and a 28 Vent rib barrel.

The other, the "Pursader" has a built in extended magazine tube that holds 7 shells and a 20 barrel, if it was shorter, the tube would extend longer than the barrel.
 
Dunno Traherne. Held it like hip shooting an 870, Firing arm bent so forearm is straight behind the grip, support hand at front of forearm, leaning into it.

Minor issue? No, Major issue. In 28 gauge,some better. One A/B was made in 16 gauge, just one. I think I know why more weren't.....
 
I have the 18-1/2" barrel on my Maverick 88. It is a lot 'handier' moving around the house with it.

As an "added benny" with the short barrel, Mrs. Foggy is happy that I haven't poked any more muzzle-sized holes in the walls. . . . . .
 
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Held it like hip shooting an 870, Firing arm bent so forearm is straight behind the grip, support hand at front of forearm, leaning into it.

Minor issue? No, Major issue. In 28 gauge,some better. One A/B was made in 16 gauge, just one. I think I know why more weren't.....
I have a T/C Encore pistol registered as an AOW, with a 12.5" 28 gauge barrel. No problem shooting it (with 3/4 ounce target loads) like a regular pistol with a two-handed hold. I'd love to find an inexpensive 20 gauge Encore barrel. :evil:
 
Leadhead said:
The Mossberg 20" has the full length mag tube and is equal to a plus three mag extension on the 20" 870.
So 4 plus 3 is 7 plus 1 in the chamber (8)
I don't agree with manufacturer's that list their gun's mag capacity to include one in the chamber.....
The 20" Mossberg 590 has a total capacity of 9 (1 in the chamber + 8 in the tube)
 
naked...the 590 is a highly upgraded version of the 500. It was upgraded to meet specifications that the military required of any shotgun before they bought it. It basically has higher quality components, with steel replacing plastic parts, and its optimized for tactical operations.
 
Big advantage of 590 over 500 is you can easily clean
the inside of the 590 magazine.
That also means that magazines and barrels are not
readily interchangeable between the models.
 
Wouldn't shot dispersion be wider with an 18" barrel than say a 24" barrel?

What would the pattern diameter at - say - 10 yards be from both?

Wasn't dispersion the whole reason sawed off shotguns were outlawed and the 1934 NFA set an 18" minimum?

As for choke don't most LE and HD shotguns come standard with no choke?
 
They were outlawed (well, more like "taxed to death", $200 was like $3000 in 1934) for cosmetic and "feel good" reasons, just as "assult weapons" are targeted today.

Shorter shotgun barrels do nothig to aid or hinder dispersal. That's determined by the type of shot, to a small degree the shot/wad, and the choke, if any.

IIRC, shot loads spread an average of 1" per yard of travel, give or take, based on the above factors. So unless you live in a mansion, any shotgun fired indoors shouldn't spread much wider than a man's outstreched hand at any interior distance inside the average home.

(Which also debunks the "don't need to aim" myth.)

So all other factors being equal, the short and long shotguns would pattern the same, minus the fraction of a meter of 1" of spread, that the differences in the barrel lengths would give. So maybe an extra .16" of spread...

My understanding of inclusion of the SBR and SBS's, was that the '34 NFA was going to make ALL HANDGUNS restricted just like Machine guns. And that the SBR and SBS categories were created to prevent people from making "handguns" out of unrestricted rifles and shotguns.

When it was realized the handgun portion of the NFA was too extreme to let it pass, it was dropped, and the SBR and SBS portions of the NFA were left in, either as oversight, or as a "crime fighting" measure.
 
Werewolf....I don't believe that barrel length has much affect on shot patterns. I believe the choke has the most effect. It does somewhat effect velocity however. Shorter barrels reduce the velocity, as less powder is able to burn before the shot leaves the barrel. This might effect the shot pattern somewhat, but I'd have to do a lot of tests to see exactly how much.
 
Somewhere I heard that its not all burned until 18 or 20 inches, but that might have been rifles.

Assuming that all the powder IS burned up by 14" in a 12 gauge shotgun, then reducing the barrel length to 18" should have almost zero effect on the shot pattern, so long as the choke stays the same.

Longer barrels on shotguns make swinging onto target smoother and helps with follow through, but this is only an issue with clay or bird shooting, i.e. hitting something that is flying through the air. Neither of these factors really matter when hunting two legged critters.
 
"Hmm... BG grabs barrel of chamberd shotgun... and pulls forward. GG's finger is on trigger... Triggers go backwards. Problem solved."
Then go find a mop and some thing to scrape all the bad guy parts off the wall behind him.
 
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