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Why Not Glock

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by navyretired 1, Mar 7, 2010.

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  1. navyretired 1

    navyretired 1 Member

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    I just read a post where every other person trashed the Glock, Why?
    I've had a Glock 17 since they first imported, I've been to Glock Armorer's class, and I've got probably 12-13K rounds through it, some of the worst trash to hit these shore's surplus some of it subgun stuff and hot.
    I've never had a problem, failure of any kind and the only part ever installed was a 3 1/2 Lb G17L connector.
    So how about some reason's for this negitivity with provable and confirmable points. I consider fugly as a objective reason not a real reason. There are a lot of LEO's and solder's as well as sportsmen love them.
     
  2. MisterMike

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    It comes down to this: those who don't own one are envious because they don't own a perfect pistol. :D
     
  3. Wildyams

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    A lot of people don't like them because they have no character.. everyone and their cousin has one.

    There isn't a gun out there that someone won't hate on, some have good reason some don't.
     
  4. General Geoff

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    Your Glock is not everyone's Glock. Due to the massive number of Glock pistols on the market and in the hands of Americans, there are bound to be some lemons that slip by. The squeaky wheel is the one that's noticed, so on gun forums, you're more likely to hear about the one guy whose Glock exploded from a partially supported case, or whose pistol failed to eject once, instead of the five thousand guys on the forum who have had trouble-free usage from their Glocks for years.
     
  5. MattTheHat

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    It's the same as with 1911s. Some people love them (and hate evil plastic guns) and some people hate them (and love evil plastic guns). :)

    Personally, I don't care for the grip angle of the Glock. But many years ago, I had a 19 that I shot the heck out of. I was young and I'm sure I mistreated her substantially, yet she never complained once that I recall.

    Add to this the fact that many people just seem to need to bash others' belongings and preferences. Still haven't figured that out. If I care for this or that, I just try to keep my mouth shut. :)

    -Matt
     
  6. LeontheProfessional

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    It is polymer and it is the most popular handgun in the world. That is why people don't like them. The steel framers hate them because they are polymer. The other polymer guys hate them because they are more famous than their polymer gun even though their polymer gun is probably based on the Glock design.
     
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    Mr Mike it can't be just that as they are almost pathological hate. Yet at the same time every swinging Di(K manufacturer is trying to copy them and guy's are tripping over each other to by the other plastic guns.
    Nice to see someone who agrees with me, thanks Mike
     
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    I used to be one of these that could not stand them. One day I got my hands on a G19. I have come to realize they work. They do what they are designed to do. I have been thru 1911's. Sigs, S&W, XD's to name a few. The Glock is my go to.
    I think alot of the hate comes from traditionals... wood, steel, blue finish. Looks pretty to show friends.
    The Glock flat out works, is very easy to repair. Anything made by man will fail, however I have met far to many people like you that have put 100k, 200k thru the guns, some of the worst ammo they had and the Glock still works, rain or shine.
    Kinda of like an AK rifle- it works.
    As a friend once told me,, caveman simple... the AK and the Glock.
    When the moment comes, do you want pretty and fussy or do you pick up what you can without a doubt depend on.
    Fancy guns you show to your friends
    The Glock is what you show to your enemy.

    Not quit what you asked for but....
     
  9. General Geoff

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    Also, the Glock pistol is the Honda Accord of the gun world. Affordable, reliable, ubiquitous; it is an appliance gun.




    Lots and lots of people hate Hondas, because it is an appliance car. As someone mentioned previously, it has no character. I suspect that is why a lot of people who have no better excuse, dislike Glocks.
     
  10. navyretired 1

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    Wow apparently the rest of us don't speak up enough because this is what I would expect. By the way If I remember right from school the grip angle the same as government model. Good stuff guy's, exactly what I was talking about.
     
  11. LeontheProfessional

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    Don't worry it will only be a matter of time before the hatters chime in.
     
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    Main reason I don't own any Glocks is because they just don't fit my hand well.

    I got no hate for the Glock but I got no love either ... no reason to own a gun you don't love.
     
  13. General Geoff

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    The Glock has a far more raked grip angle than a 1911.
     
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    Over time, you will learn to ignore the Glock hate threads as I have. Whether or not you like Glock's, you ought to at least respect what they have done for the industry. They were not the first poly-frame handgun... just the first successful one.
     
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    reasonable criticisms of glocks : personal disagreement with the interface paradigm, personal disagreement with trigger qualities, personal disagreement with aesthetics and ergonomics. mostly personal disagreements.

    the only functional criticisms of glocks I can really find are that the .40 models are, by consensus at least, more likely to KB than other .40 pistols. (I won't stand behind that as fact).

    I think most glock disparaging types agree with consensus that they are reliably functioning guns that are, if not the absolute top mfg, certainly in the top tier for quality of manufacture and design.

    but the reasons they dislike glocks are every bit as reasonable as the reasons fans like them.

    so it goes.
     
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    Glocks are perfectly acceptable handguns for defensive, concealed carry, and some competitive applications.
     
  17. General Geoff

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    Yes, Glocks are perfectly cromulent handguns. :D
     
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    Not if you are referring to Government Model as used by the US government as in Colt Government Model (1911).

    The Glock grip angle is more like the Luger.

    There is lots of Glock love on this and other sites. You pretty much can't have a day go by without somebody mentioning "Glock" and "perfection" in the same sentence or referring to some wild torture test that most would never subject their guns to.

    That is probably what causes all of the "disdain" for the Glock. People just plain tired of hearing how great they are. Same for the 1911 haters.

    I believe they are fine pistols. Some like them, some don't.
     
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    And the movers too,
    I've been gunsmithing since 1999 when I retired from Navy and I've never had to repair a Glock, I've put sights on them, extended slide releases, trigger connectors and cleaned guns not cleaned for 100's or 1000's of rounds but I've not replaced even one broken part?
     
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    LOL, I told someone the other day an Accord is the Glock of the automotive world.
     
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    I don't hate Glocks even though I don't own one and probably never will. When I was first looking to get a pistol they were the very first gun I picked up. Unfortunately they simply do not fit my hand right and I say unfortunate because they are a super reliable and reasonably priced. You know when you pick up a gun if it is for you or not and Glock just didn't do it for me. But just because it is not for me doesn't mean there is something wrong with the gun. I recommend them to people if I think it fits their criteria.

    My problem however, and I would suspect a lot of people have the same problem, is that when someone is asking for opinions about a different brand(s) or about something where a Glock would not fit their criteria at all, somebody will say "Get a Glock"........................

    ........That's it! No rhyme or reason. I know Glocks are really good guns and I would have to imagine that most reasonable people know so as well, but that doesn't mean they are the only good gun. If they want to suggest a Glock, that is fine but please at least give a reason or show how it will fit their needs. What I hate is when someone runs in and says, "Get a Glock, you won't regret it" and then poof, they're gone.

    But I say again I do not hate Glocks, just the opposite actually.

    Just my 2 cents worth......................and no I do not want my change.;)

    Shawn
     
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    Speaking just for myself, I find it hard to get a good grip on a Glock. I've fired a half-dozen or so from compact to full-size, 9mm to .45. They all seem to be really light in the front, so there's muzzle flip with them I don't get with heavier framed autos and revolvers. I've seen guys in IPSC shoot very well with them so accuracy isn't an issue and they seem rugged and well made. A Glock wouldn't be my first choice in a handgun, but they aren't bad weapons.
     
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    Sorry just put protractor on them and the Glock is approx 6 degrees steeper that GM, Hey that's my first mistake ever. LOL
     
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    If I were issued one as a LEO I would be quite happier with the Glock than an M&P or an XD.

    As it is since I dont have to have one, I find them to make me yawn.

    It doesnt help that every other manufacturer has basically copied them. M&Ps, XDs, and Glocks all look the same and they make me go color blind when I do look at them.

    Anyway, call it jealousy or stupidity that is my reason.
     
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    My frustration with Glock is simply the lack of evolution of the design from an ergo standpoint. Seems a lot of companies are figuring out how to make super-reliable and ergonomic guns. Glock ignores the complaints for quite awhile then gives us the Gen 4 with backstraps that do nothing to alleviate the 'hump'. How about just expanding the line a little bit by offering a less rakish frame without the hump along with the standard grip for those who like it? If it was a $350 new I could see it just staying the same but for the money I'd like to see some other options.

    Still, I'll pick up a gen-3 G-19 soon. Undeniably one of the greatest small-arms in history.
     
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