Read "Back to Basics for the Republican Party" by Michael Zak for a phenominal and accurate historical perspective that's also very much about today. Should be required reading for anyone who cares about the Republican Party, what it's become, what it is and how to restore it.
Why the Republicans Are Doomed
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Loon Rockwell makes a few good points...that get buried under his false assertions.
For instance:
No he didn't. Remember, GWB campaigned as a compassionate conservative. Roughly translated, that meant he had no problem with big gov't & big spending. GWB has kept faith with those principles, to our detriment.
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Loon said:
No he didn't. Remember, GWB campaigned as a compassionate conservative. Roughly translated, that meant he had no problem with big gov't & big spending. GWB has kept faith with those principles, to our detriment.
longeyes
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Okay, Biker and I will hold Giuliani down. You change him.
Autolycus
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I am sorry but neither of these parties really represents me. I will vote Libertarian simply because they are the party of liberty.
brerrabbit
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I go with Tecumsah
The republicans failed me. Thus they have lost my vote.
As one poster has already said, "they are all lizards". Until the American populace realizes this and quits thinking like sheep, we will continue voting lizards into office.
I have voted third party since 2005 in all elections available to me with a third party candidate.
The republicans failed me. Thus they have lost my vote.
As one poster has already said, "they are all lizards". Until the American populace realizes this and quits thinking like sheep, we will continue voting lizards into office.
I have voted third party since 2005 in all elections available to me with a third party candidate.
Don't Tread On Me
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I consider myself to be largely libertarian in beliefs. However, I lean Republican went it comes to *trying* to get something positive done politically. Sorry, but the L's are a joke when it comes to being an option. This isn't defeatism, it is cold hard reality. Going with the libertarian party is like pounding sand. Democrats are simply off the table since they are out to ban every single firearm we have and are economically communists.
Finally, the vast majority of these "libertarian" pundits and writers are all former liberal Democrats. Yes, Democrats - not Republicans. That makes you wonder.
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but these guys are far more negative toward the Republican Party than the Democratic Party. This is bizarre, since the Republicans share a whole heck of a lot more in common with the Libertarians than do the Democrats. They like to cite that Republican authoritarianism is what creates the big divide, while the Democrats are less hostile to civil liberties. I cannot see this as reality, since Democrats are just as bad and worse with their hatred of the 2nd Amendment, their assault against speech, religion and everything else via political correctness, campaign laws, and assaults on privacy and their social engineering.
These guys are just businessmen. There's MONEY TO BE MADE pumping libertarian BS on the net. People donate and pay attention. It is also divide and conquer. If you can get 5% of the Republican party that leans paleo-conservative to abandon the Republican party, rather than try and reform it - the Democrats win.
Mission accomplished.
Hey, the Republicans do it to. Fake pro-gun organizations that appeal to specific progressive groups and other such things. Designed to take a specific wedge issue and put doubt or disgust in the mind of the voter so at the very least, they stay home on election day.
Border issues was a key issue that made a lot of conservatives stay home on election day. Not like putting the Democrats in power will make the border policy better. It won't. Will make it worse. So how this is reform by being punative toward the GOP is beyond me. Same thing happened with guns.
Remember this? "united we stand, divided we fall"
Finally, the vast majority of these "libertarian" pundits and writers are all former liberal Democrats. Yes, Democrats - not Republicans. That makes you wonder.
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but these guys are far more negative toward the Republican Party than the Democratic Party. This is bizarre, since the Republicans share a whole heck of a lot more in common with the Libertarians than do the Democrats. They like to cite that Republican authoritarianism is what creates the big divide, while the Democrats are less hostile to civil liberties. I cannot see this as reality, since Democrats are just as bad and worse with their hatred of the 2nd Amendment, their assault against speech, religion and everything else via political correctness, campaign laws, and assaults on privacy and their social engineering.
These guys are just businessmen. There's MONEY TO BE MADE pumping libertarian BS on the net. People donate and pay attention. It is also divide and conquer. If you can get 5% of the Republican party that leans paleo-conservative to abandon the Republican party, rather than try and reform it - the Democrats win.
Mission accomplished.
Hey, the Republicans do it to. Fake pro-gun organizations that appeal to specific progressive groups and other such things. Designed to take a specific wedge issue and put doubt or disgust in the mind of the voter so at the very least, they stay home on election day.
Border issues was a key issue that made a lot of conservatives stay home on election day. Not like putting the Democrats in power will make the border policy better. It won't. Will make it worse. So how this is reform by being punative toward the GOP is beyond me. Same thing happened with guns.
Remember this? "united we stand, divided we fall"
Lew Rockwell says:
Not only is this statement offensive, but it is anithetical to the symbolic foundation of his rant.
He claims the modern Republicans are so bad because they stand for things that are fascist in nature, yet the greatest threat the free world has ever encountered was because of the most powerful fascist movement in history--a fascist movement that was defeated in large part to those "drafted killers."
Yes, they were the greatest generation. Period.
Not only is this statement offensive, but it is anithetical to the symbolic foundation of his rant.
He claims the modern Republicans are so bad because they stand for things that are fascist in nature, yet the greatest threat the free world has ever encountered was because of the most powerful fascist movement in history--a fascist movement that was defeated in large part to those "drafted killers."
Yes, they were the greatest generation. Period.
Malone LaVeigh
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Nor should they.
longeyes said:
longeyes, if you have seen what Rudy has been caught on film wearing and caught on film in the middle of:
http://www.vimeo.com/clip:66996
you wouldn't be so eager to hold him down & have your way with him*.
Biker:
Run!
* He's likely to have his way with YOU!
longeyes
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As Joe E. Brown said at the end of Some Like It Hot, "Nobody's perfect!"
Ragnar Danneskjold
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It's sad how many people are willing to sell us all out by default to the Democrats just so they can make some symbolic and realistically worthless gesture that only makes themselves feel good.
Art Eatman
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I guess maybe I'd be more whelmed by all this, but off and on since the late 1990s there have been equally learned articles about why the Democratic Party is doomed. Some as recently as last fall; a few, now, looking toward the presidential election next year.
I dunno. I've seen so much of all this punditry, and it's usually proven wrong in a year or six. They are generally about as accurate in their predictions as a tabloid psychic.
Art
I dunno. I've seen so much of all this punditry, and it's usually proven wrong in a year or six. They are generally about as accurate in their predictions as a tabloid psychic.
Art
xd9fan
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Tell me this is not the new GOP platform
Imagine them stop whining about the "lesser of two evils" crap and vote for Liberty...regardless of fear
Your wrong
GWB did campaign as a limited Govt "its your money" "only in Washington is a decrease in the increased spending...A CUT" conservative.
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