Why wont my friends Highpoint 40 eject the first two rounds.

[outerlimit]

or a good CZ82, read the reviews on them and you'll find they're very high quality and in my opinion very sexy looking.

People with limited financial assets should ESPACIALLY research before buying any gun

If you can find a nice shape one they are a good deal, but that 9x18mm Mak caliber is not as plentiful locally as it used to be and if you don't have a C&R you're not likely to find an FFL that will sell one for less than the price of a used Ruger 9mm. I think the Ruger or Glock in 9mm/.40/.45 is the way to go on a budget.

 

[wgaynor]

For those that recommend buying used Rugers and Glocks, I ask you this: What if you buy a used pistol and it need servicing? Do the Rugers and Glocks have a lifetime warranty to ensure you aren't buying someone else's problem? Also, when was the last time you saw a used Glock or Ruger at Aces gunshop in Lewisport, Kentucky for $125 or less (that is the price i paid for my new C9). Sometimes, the Hi Points are bought, because no other weapon is available due to rural areas not having more than one gunshop, thus limited selection. There are other times where it's just smarter to buy the Hi-point. For me, the $125 Hi-Point C9 was bought because the extra $80 to buy a very used Keltech 9mm was needed to provide for my family. Some people are in that situation. It is time to accept that. This is the America we now live in.

 

[scott1]

Most of us here understand that no weapon is perfect, and there are quite a few that are "less perfect" than others. Hi-Points are really good plinkers or occasional use weapons, but it won't be the one I reach for when it means I need to defend my life or the lives of my family and/or friends.

Since you only have 5 posts over a 2 month period, I would hope you don't have multiple accounts on THR. It sounds like you've been around a lot longer than 2 months and I'm rather positive that multiple accounts aren't allowed.

i agree about not being the first to grab to defend yourself unless its all you have

what would be the point of having different accounts? i just read a lot and don't post much. been checking the forum for probably a year and a half. and i use the search to find most of my answers

 

[w_houle]

what would be the point of having different accounts? i just read a lot and don't post much.

You are new and aren't bashing the Hi Point, so MUST be an alt of a Hi Point Kool Aid drinking FREAK

I would first try different ammo before either returning the gun or spending time condemning it.

Good point... are YOU an alt?

 

[bikerdoc]

Big fan here.

Love my 995 carbine. good, reliable, ugly guns. Paid 149 new long time ago.

Will not replace my CZ's, Rugers, etc but a lot of fun for cheap money;

Called the Main office once for a minor question - ended up shooting the beeze with one of the head dudes who did not even tell me he was a head dude til I asked. Talked and BS'ed for an hour. Good people, great warranty.

Really want some fun? Put a scope on the 995 ! Unreal!

The trigger could use some work but a little home remedy made it better. Only use factory mags as the after market stuff I found to be junk.

Had to buy the wife one she liked it so much.

 

[Juice Boxes]

Whats funny is that if someone came in saying they had an HK malfunction the comments would be different

How often does someone post about an HK malfunction? Exactly

 

[JamisJockey]

Any gun will break, malfunction, misfeed, and FTF given the right circumstances.

My Kel-Tec is a "cheap" gun, yet I put over 500 rounds through it before I even bothered cleaning it. Nary a malfunction yet with over 1000 rounds through it.

Sounds like a magazine issue. One of the previous posters mentioned a break in period. Take it to the range and burn alot of ammo through it and see if the issue persists.

 

[Just One Shot]

:banghead:

Nuff said.

 

[outerlimit]

The latest Hi-Point carbines I've seen on Gunbroker are close to the price of a Keltec Sub 2000. Quite shocking really. Not that a Keltec is the prize of anyone's gunsafe though.

 

[hogshead]

HK because you suck and we hate you. High Point because if it won't shoot it will still make a good boat anchor.

 

[96projectz24]

Bashers just crack me up, I have a Hi Point 45 and 9mm that haven't missed a beat. I let my mags sit fully loaded for about 2 weeks, fed like butter. Both guns came to a grand total of $300 bucks out the door, for 2 reliable pistols. Tell me what other brand I can get for that price for 2 guns that will be reliable as all get out, brand new! Granted, I also own 2 Glocks and a Ruger SR9, but these things are just work horses. Guess what, my Glock 27 had to go back just after I bought it because it had a minor feeding issue and the mag release didn't work correctly and I paid $550 for that one. It's gonna happen, semi-autos aren't gonna be perfect all the time. Try some other ammo and leave the mags loaded for a bit, it will work wonders!

 

[dg12]

Take it apart, clean and lube it real good.

 

[outerlimit]

Be sure and let us know when the zinc alloy slide on either of these "workhorses" cracks or comes apart on you.

 

[wgaynor]

Are you speaking from experience, or just trying to scare people from future purchases? Either way, let me know when you workhorse comes apart also Everything has a shelf life.

And when yours does come apart, be sure to tell us how it feels to NOT have a life time no questions asked warranty.

 

[96projectz24]

I'll let you know about my crappy slides cracking, I'm over 3k rounds and counting on the .45 and just under 4K on the 9mm, so it may be a while! All I'm saying it that mine have been just as reliable as my Glocks and Rugers, even more reliable in some cases. If you don't want to be seen with a HP, no big deal. Don't trash 'em just because they're ugly, or you heard about someone's dad who had a friend that had a wife that had a kid who had one blow apart on them while they were shooting zombies at Disney World while he was naked. Doesn't hold water with me man. Good pistol at an even better price!

 

[gregj]

Likely just a stiff magazine - down loading it to 7 rounds for a break in period may well take care of the problem .
A call to the company would likely get him a new magazine in the blink of an eye. Their customer service is second to none .

Ditto. I had a C9 for a while, and it did the same thing, stiff mag spring. Oh, and for the bashers, I've heard that other semis like Springfield XDm, Sig, etc, etc, are prone to do this too. :banghead:

Have your buddy call Hi Point, or send them a note. They have great C/S. Might also have him check out the Hi Point user forum.

http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/Forum/

 

[outerlimit]

Are you speaking from experience, or just trying to scare people from future purchases?

Yes, I was lying. The Hi-Point slides are actually CNC machined from cast steel billets and then hand polished and laser engraved. They are the best bargain going!!!

 

[crusty81]

sounds a bit funny but during beakin we always use carnuba wax(mothers) on all the bullets and brass just a little, polish with a nice clean cloth, its a great bullet lube and polishs the ramps. call me crazy but it works great!!!my 45 hi point has never jamed 400 rounds so far of win 230 gr jhp ammo( waxed!) no problems at all! dont knock it till ya try it!

 

[crusty81]

hay looking for reloading data for my hi point 45 acp anyone reloading? i have some sweet 255 gr lee cast bullets, and some berrys 230 gr plated bullets comming soon, and some once fired rem brass. drop me a note!

 

[crusty81]

ps my new hp 45 acp has the best trigger pull since my model 19 in single action after 30 years of use. so close to my revolver, its awsome! smooth and on the mark!squezzze it off!

 

[boondock843]

I wax cars for a living. I'm not about to wax a bullet lol. I got a brand new P99 9mm, and paid $850 for it. Wouldn't you know that it had the same problem until 400 rounds or so. Mags stay loaded down and I haven't had any feed/ejection problems since.
Wonder if his problem was solved.
Just goes to show that the more $$$ put in sometimes doesn't mean quality. But I'm happy now

 

[ljnowell]

hay looking for reloading data for my hi point 45 acp anyone reloading? i have some sweet 255 gr lee cast bullets, and some berrys 230 gr plated bullets comming soon, and some once fired rem brass. drop me a note!

255 is awfully heavy for a 45 acp. Most times those are only used in guns set up for bowling pins and whatnot. How hot are you planning on loading them?

 

[christcorp]

Be sure and let us know when the zinc alloy slide on either of these "workhorses" cracks or comes apart on you.

Most definitely let us know. Considering I've NEVER READ of anyone ever having this happen to them. Oh yea.... We've heard some of the: "I know this guy, who's friend's barber, knows this mechanic, who saw a Hi-Point..........." Yea, I'm impressed.

 

[outerlimit]

Most definitely let us know. Considering I've NEVER READ of anyone ever having this happen to them.

Well now you can't say that anymore, http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/Forum/index.php?topic=15746.0

You'll notice the fanboys will go to the ridiculous lengths of claiming the gun was "hacksawed in half" and that the poster has an "agenda".

I understand what you are saying, but please don't delude yourself as to the quality and safety of these firearms. Any firearm can break or have catastrophic failure, obviously. I have plenty of range time experience with Hi-Point pistols. Most of it has involved attempting to fire more than two shots in a row without a jam, clearing jams of fellow shooters, and lobbing bullets in the general direction of the targets. Lifetime warranty is great, for a range toy. A huge clunky design is great, for a range toy.

A zinc alloy slide has a lifespan. And that lifespan is on average much lower than that of a comparable steel part. There is a reason why the Hi-Point pistol slides are a giant chunk of alloy. And why the zinc-alloy Walther P-22 slides crack and break apart. Keep in mind we're talking about a .22 caliber pistol there. The Hi-Point slide is substantially more beefy, but it also fires larger calibers, so don't pretend like it's going to last like a stainless or carbon steel slide. I'm not trying to take a giant dump on Hi-Point, I'm just trying to lay some facts out for the fanboys. The first thing the fanboys will do is bring up is other brands, especially higher end ones like Heckler & Koch, rather than talk about materials or workmanship. And then they claim that you're badmouthing Hi-Point just because of internet heresay, or brand snobbery, when it is obvious they are often badmouthing the more expensive H&K (for example) brand without having any experience in it themselves.

If you'll read my comments you'll see I'm talking about materials, not brand labels. Calling any pistol with a zinc alloy slide a "workhorse" is so ridiculous it is laughable. The fanboys bring up the lifetime warranty, price and reliability of the carbines. You'll see I do not hold that in dispute, though as I noted in a previous post, the price has been creeping up. Regardless of whether you get one that will go 5,000 rounds with no problems or one that blows up in your face, nothing can change the fact that they are poorly manufactured firearms made with inferior materials.

 

[christcorp]

Outerlimit. I definitely thank you for the link. But I have to say that those pictures do appear to be a little staged. But anything is possible. I've done a lot of research on ZAMAC3, and I am not against it. Especially with the way hi-point does it, because they do reinforce the breech areas and other stress points with steel. http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_reviews/hipoint_100605/
But you did fine 1 example of a hi-point that definitely isn't in shooting condition. And that is all I asked. So thank you for that. But I hope you don't mind me being skeptical of the link. That damage definitely looks a little "too clean". But anything is possible. But I'm not worried about ZAMAC3. You can call it pot metal, but it's not quite the same thing.

This isn't a "Fanboy" either. I have all steel CZ's, SigSauer, S&W, Dan Wesson, Springfield, and many other guns. So I definitely know the difference between the Hi-Point and many of my other guns. But that doesn't make Hi-Point cheap or junk. They aren't. Besides the one I recently picked up, I'd had experience with only 3 others. And the only time any of them had a problem, was the one that was brand new. Feeding rounds in a brand new hi-point is an issue. It's widely known that the gun; mainly the magazine; needs to break in. But other than that on a new gun, I rarely hear of hi-point having issues. Definitely no more than any other gun like glock, s&w, or anything else.

Now I've said numerous times that the hi-point isn't equal to my Sig or Dan Wesson. Then again, my ford focus isn't equal to my vette. That doesn't mean the focus is unsafe or a piece of junk. I've now had the ford focus for over 10 years. The 2000 focus was the first year available in the USA. I bought the 2000 in October 1999. 10+ years later, it's still working just fine. I recently gave it to my daughter since she graduated from college, so she can have a dependable car without starting her new life and career in debt. But there some that will say the focus is junk. Well, I feel the exact same way with the hi-point. It's not going to win a beauty contest. It's definitely not light. It's almost impossible to conceal carry it. There's a lot of things about it that suck. But cheap, dangerous, falling apart, unreliable, can't trust it, etc... Sorry, but those attributes are NOT part of a hi-point.

The ONLY problem I have, is the excuse some people say about buying a Hi-Point because they can't afford anything else. The problem I have is with "PURPOSE". If the purpose is to buy a gun to have fun with, to have an extra gun for the truck, garage, tackle box, etc... and other things similar, then I think the hi-point is a fine gun if that's what you want to afford. However, if you are somewhat new to guns, and this is the ONLY gun you will own at this point in time, and it's going to be shared as a home defense gun by more than one person; e.g. husband and wife. The I don't ever recommend a semi-auto. Sorry, not even a glock, H&K, S&W, Springfield, or any of them. So my problem isn't that it's a hi-point. My problem is that for your one and only gun for multiple uses, and shared by multiple people, you should be buying a revolver. And you can get used revolvers in the 357 mag or 38spl categories for right around $200. I love my semi-autos. But I'm tired of listening to people try and rationalize and then recommend semi-autos to people who have rarely ever shot; will rarely shoot in the future; want a gun simply for home defense; and it will probably sit in a dresser, night stand, or closet for possibly a year or more at a time. These people should have a revolver. That is not negotiable. People can disagree with me, but I won't debate that with them. I will go to my grave believing they are wrong. So the "This is all I can afford for defense" flies with a lot of hi-point supporters. But that isn't why I support hi-point. And even with all of my great guns, it's still a S&W 357 magnum revolver that sits in the night stand for me and my wife if we need it. I carry semi-auto. I have semi-auto in different parts of the house. But my 2am, half asleep gun is the 357 magnum revolver.

Anyway; I don't believe the hi-point is cheap. It's not. ZAMAC3 is not a problem. Especially when it's reinforced with steel, LIKE WITH HI-POINT. And again, I appreciate the link, but I'd have to validate that scenario. It definitely doesn't seem too practical. Thanks though.