Wikileaks Cable, most cartell guns come from Central America

[Old Fuff]

With three mostly rural, gun-friendly states right next door you would have to be pretty naive to think Mexican gangsters never sent anyone up north to pick up some guns.

While it is true that some of the guns that "go south" end up in criminal hands, those of us that live along the border know that a lot (and maybe most) arms purchased from retailers, private individuals, and at gun shows are purchased by local Mexican-Americans who are often U.S. citizens; and intended for extended family members and friends in the "Old Country." Others are obtained by professional gun runners that are only interested in money - from anybody.

Place yourself in the open warfare going on in Northern Mexico. While even the armed forces of that country cannot suppress the violence, Mexican laws for all practical purposes deny the people any means of self defense. :banghead:

 

[medalguy]

The cable cited is readily available if you google "09mexico880" but most links I found were in spanish and you will need to translate the page if your spanish is as bad as mine.

 

[Neverwinter]

This is an example of a coordinated effort by the Executive branch to LIE to the American people to further an anti-2A agenda.

Wouldn't be the first time(eg. Iraq), and certainly won't be the last.

Place yourself in the open warfare going on in Northern Mexico. While even the armed forces of that country cannot suppress the violence, Mexican laws for all practical purposes deny the people any means of self defense.

Our War on Some Drugs has been complicit in enabling the warfare of the Mexican drug cartels. The drug law enforcement causes the risk of selling to be very high, resulting in a black market with very high prices from the cartels willing to take that risk. With the enormous markup from their drug sales compared to the cost of production and distribution, the cartels have become very well funded. The Mexican people would still not have rights analogous to our 2nd amendment, but at least they would be safer.

 

[texas bulldog]

Coming from New Jersey, Texas is most certainly rural by our standards. And we would consider New Mexico and Arizona pretty much a barren wasteland.

So yeah, you're rural to us. For example Bergen-Essex-Hudson has more people than all of New Mexico.

Well I wasn't really talking about New Mexico. But since we're comparing population, the DFW and Houston metro areas alone dwarf the New Jersey population. (12.5 mil compared to 8.7 mil). That's not counting Austin, San Antonio, and the rest of the I-35 corridor.

Sorry...I get a little tired of Northeasterners viewing us as flyover country. I mean, we're the most populated State in the Union. How much bigger do we have to be before people stop thinking it's all cattle and oil derricks?

 

[essayons21]

Shear_stress, I was responding to post #15, not yours.

groups like the NRA and other various conservative outlets were claiming that the guns in Mexico "simply don't come from the US"

That is a false statement.

And yes, the title of the OP is misleading, but I believe its too late for the OP to edit it.

 

[Rshooter]

The sad state of this affair is that some people really do believe that Mexicans are getting automatic weapons, grenades, and other heavy weapons from gunshows and gun dealers down south.