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Massachusetts: Lowell proposes "arsenal" law

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Aren't we all, May 9, 2011.

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  1. Aren't we all

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    This is a good example of legislators addressing a non-existent "problem." They're trying to score points by scaring the ignorant. Since when are gun collections used in crime? All a criminal needs is one, or at most two, guns. This is just grandstanding.
     
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    How many can you shoot at a time? Suppose you had a reason to resist the government, Is it not easier to change magazines than to change guns?
     
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    Very Scary!

    How many times are you allowed to excercise a Constitutinal right before you have to report your activity to the Police?
     
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    thats rather disturbing
     
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    No wonder why people are fleeing MA for New Hampshire --lower taxes and more reasonable gun laws. This ordnance in Lowell shows the level of stupidity that lawmakers will stoop to in order to score points with their ignorant constituents.
     
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    This is what it is all about.

    My opponent is in favor of letting wife beaters have guns
    My opponent voted against banning assault rifles
    My opponent is in favor of making concealed carry easier
     
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    Bingo. And the voters* buy it lock, stock, and barrel.

    *not all voters, just the ignorant ones
     
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    A lot of legislation these days seems to come down to not what they think the constituents want, but rather, what they're afraid their next opponent will use against them as a sound bite.

    And sometimes, it's about some small-print rider they put on there, too.
     
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    MA already has some of the most byzantine, tyrannical, and anti law abiding citizen gun laws in the country, and we're supposed to get outraged at this? This is nothing. Hell, I'd trade this law for getting rid of the expensive licensing requirement. I say pass it and drive the remaining gun owners out of that awful state. We still have a lot of cling-ons who won't leave MA for various reasons. I also say pass it because there's a good chance it would violate Heller.
     
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    Except in NY ;)
     
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    The misuse of the term "arsenal" by media cretins has gotten to be like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. An arsenal is a military installation where weapons are made and has nothing to do with Joe Blow having a closet full of guns.
     
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    You can apply political media speak to anything we do. I have a "cache of unregistered military-style rifles, pistols and long range rifles similar to those used by snipers" and an "unlicensed ammunition manufacturing facility" hidden out of sight in the basement. Sounds evil, but I reload for a small collection of US WW2 arms and scoped hunting rifles in a state where registration is not required.
     
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    Ten guns is an arsenal? Really?
     
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    gun shows must REALLY tick them off.
     
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    Perfect response and 100% true.
     
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    double tap - pls delete.
     
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    Those guy's descendants all moved west to escape the increasing nannying in New England ... Just like thier ancestor's moved across the pond to escape European Nanny-states...The vote with your feet concept is still alive and well in the USA ... just reference the 2010 census - all the pro-freedom, low-tax burden states were population gainers.
     
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    It has been proven that fear of the unknown will cause nomally rational people to act irrationally. Consider the original "War of the Worlds" broadcast.

    The more reason to educate the public, so firearms are not an "unknown" quantity. Respect, yes, fear, no.
     
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    Unfortunately,...Uncle Sam sent me to Ft. Deven's in 1983,...but after 10 months I managed to escape,......never ever looked back......
     
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    Exactly. Now they can say that they are there to protect the people and if anyone objects to it they are accused of defending murders.

    It's amazing how a perfectly legal firearm owner is still seen as a violent criminal in the eyes of government and the ignorant. :banghead:
     
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    TEN!?

    I have five, my brother has seven, and my parents have well over a dozen, and we're not even that dedicated to collecting!

    Ten is a crazy-easy number to reach. Even if you just had one of each essential category.

    1.) Full-size home defense/range pistol
    2.) .22 pistol
    3.) .22 rifle
    4.) HD/Hunting Shotgun
    5.) Hunting rifle
    6.) CCW piece
    7.) Warm-weather CCW piece
    8.) Spouse CCW piece
    9.) Spouse warm-weather CCW piece
    10.) 1911

    Even with just a single type of each gun, you hit the limit. And what if you like to collect 1911s or rifles?

    More more concerning than the practical application...what other rights do we require this for?

    Am I required to report if I protest in front of the capitol more than 10 times?

    If I don't let troops into my house more than 10 times?

    If I decline to self-incriminate more than 10 times?

    Tyranny, plain and simple.
     
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    This is really not about crime. The statists believes that the government should have a monopoly on the use of force and weapons in private hands are seen as symbols of defiance and a challenge to their authority.
     
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