Will a .22 stop my assault rifle 'jones'.

[U.S.SFC_RET]

There are reasons why you should never negate the 22 rifle to a last ditch role. The 22 rifle certainly will not be my last choice. DPMS is selling the sportical and can be found under $700.00 and with a front and rear sight you have plenty. It comes with two 30 round magazines depending which state you buy it from.
I find the DPMS sportical very comparible to the AK in price so why go with the AK?

 

[grimjaw]

I had a similar experience to rfurtkamp. I had several pistol caliber carbines (Marlin Camp and 1894, Ruger PC9) before I ended up with a stock Colt 6450. I kept thinking, man it would be nice if this was SBR'd and full auto. Ended up selling it because I can't reasonably afford the cost to shoot something like that, much less buy it.

Now if what you like to do is just shoot and you aren't particular about caliber or range, a .22 might work for you. I have a gun for that, a Marlin 795, and it was cheap.

Make sure you know what desire you're trying to satisfy.

jm

 

[xd45gaper]

no it probably wont, more than likely IF there is another ban i highly doubt seeing ruger 10/22's on the list.

I would get an AK or AR if i where you. Keep your eyes open for a good deal on one, they can still be had. not every one is charging 2k for a Century built Yugo like the a$$ clowns on GB.

you can build an AR for "fairly" cheap. i dont know what your budget is but a S&W 5,45x39 upper is around 530$ couple that with a cheap lower you put togther your self and you are still in under 1k$ for an AR that shoots cheap russian ammo to!

I would say you could build an AK but honestly its just as cheap to buy one lol. unless you have a certain country you want a build from.

AIM surplus still has Romanian PSL rifles for about 700$. cheap ammo for it to boot to.

 

[doc540]

"I could buy 2 SKS's. I kind of like them and could see myself eventually possibly owning two; keep one stock and bubba-ize the other. I might even cure my urge with just one and save myself some dough!!"

Great minds think alike:

1954


ChinoTapco



OR


1952


BubbaTrooper

 

[pgeleven]

look for the WASR 22LR, it may be a weapon that will meet you halfway. otherwise i suggest a 10/22 with some hi cap mags. i highly doubt you would be up for the EBR long haul if you dont get to shoot outside much. even a GSG-5 would be a great choice if you could find one

 

[Grassman]

Yeah, I'm going through this now myself, I don't have the dough for an AK or AR, so I went the SKS route. I got $325 in the gun, and I plan to get some aftermarket plastic for it too.

 

[Macmac]

There is a lot more than 100 bucks worth of difference between the WASR clone and a yugo underfolder.

The WASR was a single stack mag converted to double and has no dimples in the reciever to support side to side play in mags.

The yugo underfolder if it has grenade launching capabilty has a much thicker reciever. And is much more rugged.

The 7.62x39mm round is akin to a winchester 30-30 rnd, so not the high powder round claimed by media.

I won't pretend to know and understand your needs.

I own offering in arms from flinter to AK, Shotguns and hand guns as well, and my wife never has any problems with purchasing anything.

That works out well since then she has no problems.. err other than my soaking tomahawks to tighten the heads in the toliet.

 

[T191032]

Was in local gun shop, fellow behind the counter called a customer to tell them the SKS they had ordered was in, $249.

I've gotten that "gotta trade itch" so often, I don't even miss my SKS rifles, or the .223 Savage, or the Glock 21, or the blah, blah blah.
I do miss the Ruger KGP-161, though. Local shop had em new (4" Bbl) for $515 and a used one like I used to have for $458. I decided I wasn't going to be too concerned with replacing it.

 

[Rosstradamus]

My thoughts:

1. A .22 isn't going to help. It's got no EBR-ness, and you know it.
2. The SKS is the best value, not because it's that great but because it's so inexpensive compared to an AK or AR.
3. If you can hold off, I think prices will fall back near where they were pre-November. Then an AK wouldn't be such a financial strain. I think it's a better choice than an SKS in every way except price.
4. Obamanation will be preoccupied with the economy in the short term. The only way I see a new ban happening is as a cheap feel-good measure to distract from failed economic policies. That means a year at least.

 

[Liberty or Death 86]

The real question is: What do you want to do with this weapon? Is it for home defense, high power range events, or just to have a sweet looking weapon? If you want a really sweet looking weapon, you can't go wrong with an AR type and if you want to feed it the cheap stuff, get a 22lr conversion kit. If you are a recoil junkie or don't want to mess around with the conversion, just leave the original hardware as is. For home defense, I personally keep a snub nose Taurus revolver but I want to get either an AR-10 by Armalite or go old school and get an M1 carbine. Both have considerable close in stopping power and are easily portable. The downside is the Ar10 has a tendency to go through walls. So don't use that if you have neighbors close by. If you want to use it for the range, you are going to want to use the AR type. They are much more accurate than the AK's and are infinitely more customizable.

 

[pgeleven]

i am going for one of these with my next 10/22 build

http://www.promagindustries.com/

itll be cheap to feed and convert a fun plinker into an EBR

 

[indoorsoccerfrea]

buy a saiga 7.62
it uses the same ammo as the AK, in fact it is based off of the same design. they run under $400, sometimes under $300. Very good quality as far as an AK variant goes

 

[browningguy]

Ha, will a .22 fill the need. This pic doesn't include the 10-22, the SUB 2000,or the SKS, or the 2 SU16's. Unless you have a lot of will power one just doesn't do it.

The pic includes a FN49 in 30-06, AR in 6x45, Mini14, GSG-5, HK USC, AR in .50 Beowulf, AR in .223. And they are all fun to take to the range. But if you have some will power, a pistol caliber carbine might work for you. I love shooting my .22's, I also have five .22 pistols, but they don't have the excitement of shooting the bigger rounds, and they certainly aren't the right answer for most home defense uses.

The SKS is just an excellent rifle, I got mine back when the nearly new Yugo's were going for $119 and it is really fun to shoot. It's as accurate as most mini-14's, uses cheap intermediate ammo, and is as reliable as a rock. I modded mine with a rear sight replacement mount and a red dot because my tired old eyes didn't do well with the standard sights.

 

[lanternlad1]

Classic Arms has WASRs for under $500.

http://www.classicarms.us/

 

[pgeleven]

you can pick up a WASR in michigan for about $360 (dunhams)

 

[jws527]

If the AK is what you want, the AK is what you should get. I was in the same boat last summer and waffled for months before deciding to splurge on the AK. I don't regret that decision at all - it's fun and it works flawlessly.

If you want to follow my lead, get a WASR-10 and then go pick up a Savage MkII from Walmart for $117, so you'll have your EBR and a cheap plinker. In my opinion, bolt action 22s are more fun than semi-autos because operating the bolt somewhat compensates for the lack of recoil (I like my toys to be interactive). They also tend to be substantially more accurate - I can put 10/10 rounds on a small shoot-n-see from 100 meters out with that Savage using irons and Remington bulk ammo (500/$15) - and I'm hardly an expert shot! There's something inherently satisfying about doing that with a $100 rifle and cartridges that cost 3 cents apiece.

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

No, it won't. But it just might buy you long enough of a fix to get past the high-priced centerfires right now.

 

[PryItFromMyColdDeadHands]

I made my 10/22 an EBR this year and since then I made my sks an ebr, then after that I bought 2 ar15 lower recievers to build.......all in all it started with the10/22 lol
my REM 700 .243 is also an EBR by chance!

 

[gidaeon]

Inside every pistol guy, is a rifleman that doesn't know he's there!?..

For under $100 you can easily get a good used .22 semi auto. You won't struggle with paying to feed it, and it may get you more excited about center fire rifles. 'Course there are many good mil. surp. rifles to choose from. Mosin's for $80 still, or hunt for sks deal. IMHO, don't buy something just because of its shape, appearance, or EBR'ness. Buy it because you will use it and really like it.

Maybe something like this could tide you over while you save or wait for some price stabilization?

 

[IndianaBoy]

Everyone should have a 22. They are perfect for practice, and it takes practice to become a good rifleman.

Consider a CZ 452 22lr over a 10/22. It is easily twice the rifle for another 100 bucks.


The guys saying SKS are on to something. I don't own one but they are excellent for the price and the ammo cost. I have an AR and it is a great carbine.

 

[eye5600]

I don't think a .22lr is going to do the trick, but I don't see any point in the 'tactical' 22's. The firepower is the same as a Plinkster, after all. If you are actually in Philly or some other urban/suburban place, you might consider a 9mm like the Hi-Point or Kel-Tec. It's certainly enough firepower to make the BG's keep their heads down and reduce their ability to shoot at you, but at less risk of gunning down your neighbors.

You would get nearly as much firepower, all things considered, from a lever action rifle.

 

[Davionmaximus]

GSG5 Fantastic guns... check em out!!

 

[pgeleven]

GSG5 Fantastic guns... check em out!!

if you can find one anywhere

 

[jackdanson]

I'd get the AK in a few months when the panic has died down.

hah! Are you the same type that was saying "don't buy now, prices aren't going to go up post-election" before the election?

News flash folks, prices aren't going down for at least 4 years... not to mention the fact that they could be banned outright.

 

[gdcpony]

I will break with the norm here, and vote for a .22lr. Why? Because I believe everyone who shoots should have one anyways for cheap practice. You could use it at your indoor range, and IF you decide you need more then buy a centerfire. Meanwhile you still have a cheap and effective practice rifle. I dislike 10/22's but that is personal, and they do work. Savage, Marlin, Remington, and Browning all offer semi auto's that will give you practice on basic skills and even more advanced ones. My preference goes to the Buckmark, but it is pricey.

If you do go centerfire, then it's all personal preference. You may not hunt now, but that can change (trust me my hunting is a side effect of my shooting). You may think a rifle is great, but in a city- and it seems you live in an urban environment- a shotgun has many advantages for defense. In fact, I think Saiga offers a few that might interest you. I believe they have a decent capacity and rumor has it they shoot pretty good with shot and slugs. I was thinking of looking into a 20ga for my 10yr old daughter (past the single shot stage now). That would be my first choice in a city where stray rounds can cause many issues. My wife's home defense is my H&R Ultra slugger with #6 shot. Not fatal, but out of a rifled barrel it is point, shoot, and reload (a slug) while they scream.
I use an AR or a bolt gun, but I can shoot deer out my kitchen window too. It makes a huge difference.