Will never buy another Taurus revolver
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Glockman17366
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Every Taurus revolver I bought ran fine.
I think you're posting a BS post
I think you're posting a BS post
haybaler
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I have a model 85 DAO that I messed up the cylinder release latch and the ejetor rod spring. I didn't want to fool around with sending it to Taurus so I let a dealer send it for me. Shipping cost me $13.50 and Taurus repaired a 15 year old gun at no cost. Seemed like a pretty good deal to me. It took 3 months to get it back but it works great.
Based on what exactly makes it a piece of crap ?
You claim it has some "End Play" just what does that mean ?
Every revolver I have ever handled has a minute amount of movement in the cylinder when in Double action mode if you take ***** of it and twist it back and forth .
It is only in single action with the hammer cocked and for a fraction of a second as the hammer travel forward is it in 100% lockup .
Has the gun ever failed to fire when target shooting because the cylinder wasn't in line with the firing pin ? Are you getting lead spitting because it isn't in Time ?
It sounds to me like you listened to some clown like yourself who half way knows guns and the idiot convinced you there is something wrong with your gun .
Virginian
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Ah, the old "one gun", proof positive post. I once asked to look at a S&W 686, brand new, that was sitting in a nice glass display case. I was planning on buying it. I popped open the cylinder, checked it out, looked at the barrel bore, shut the cylinder, and went to cock it. I got half way back, and it locked up. I mean the cylinder quit turning, the hammer quit coming back, and the trigger froze. And none of those three things could be moved, either way. The salesman took it, and he tried some muscle, I had been real gentle. No dice. As he messed with it, several little pieced of machined stainless fell out on the counter. They sent it back to the factory. I don't know what happened to it, because I bought a Ruger Security Six.
For a year or so I was convinced S&Ws were all junk. Then a friend got a new Model 19 and we went shooting and it was a very sweet handling and shooting gun.
Then (when I had an FFL) I ordered a GP100 for a friend. It arrived, it looked great. Single action, everything was fine. Double action, you could not pull the trigger. Before I decided to tinker with it, I called Ruger, and they sent me a replacement, post haste, and a pick-up order for the one that was messed up. The new one was fine, but my buddy never felt quite right about it, and sold it after a year or so.
I got in a Remington Model 7, and the bolt needed Arnold S. to close it. I sent it to Rem and they fixed it in no time. Had had the wrong spring off a Model 700 installed, and the bolt lugs weren't lapped in real good. When it came back it was the absolute smoothest Remington any ever saw.
A buddy sent his Dad's Winchester Model 21 in to get cleaned and checked out after his Dad died. It came back with no fore end. He called them and they apologised. They knew they had an extra forend, but didn't know which gun it went to, and figured the owner would call. He told them the serial number was on it, and they said "Oh yeah!" No foul, they did a great job on the gun anyway.
Back in the 80s I sold a lot of Tauruses, and they had excellent QC, and costs, and they were making serious inroads into the revolver market. I got a Model 82 in, which had a rough trigger, and when it came back it was as good as any I have ever seen. I still have a 431 for personal defense, and I like that gun better than the Smith 24, which I therefore sold.
The point is, I think everyone screws up building guns. The only one I never saw evidence of that with personally, was Colt, and that's pretty much a moot point now, wouldn't you say?
But, I have never had a really bad experience with any manufacturer when it came to fixing one of their guns, whether it was their fault or not. But, I do not have nearly the number of those types of contacts as I once did.
Anything you buy is a crap shoot. My wife got a brand new name brand computer that was DOA at the house, not too long ago. People die from eating at the hamburger joint.
For a year or so I was convinced S&Ws were all junk. Then a friend got a new Model 19 and we went shooting and it was a very sweet handling and shooting gun.
Then (when I had an FFL) I ordered a GP100 for a friend. It arrived, it looked great. Single action, everything was fine. Double action, you could not pull the trigger. Before I decided to tinker with it, I called Ruger, and they sent me a replacement, post haste, and a pick-up order for the one that was messed up. The new one was fine, but my buddy never felt quite right about it, and sold it after a year or so.
I got in a Remington Model 7, and the bolt needed Arnold S. to close it. I sent it to Rem and they fixed it in no time. Had had the wrong spring off a Model 700 installed, and the bolt lugs weren't lapped in real good. When it came back it was the absolute smoothest Remington any ever saw.
A buddy sent his Dad's Winchester Model 21 in to get cleaned and checked out after his Dad died. It came back with no fore end. He called them and they apologised. They knew they had an extra forend, but didn't know which gun it went to, and figured the owner would call. He told them the serial number was on it, and they said "Oh yeah!" No foul, they did a great job on the gun anyway.
Back in the 80s I sold a lot of Tauruses, and they had excellent QC, and costs, and they were making serious inroads into the revolver market. I got a Model 82 in, which had a rough trigger, and when it came back it was as good as any I have ever seen. I still have a 431 for personal defense, and I like that gun better than the Smith 24, which I therefore sold.
The point is, I think everyone screws up building guns. The only one I never saw evidence of that with personally, was Colt, and that's pretty much a moot point now, wouldn't you say?
But, I have never had a really bad experience with any manufacturer when it came to fixing one of their guns, whether it was their fault or not. But, I do not have nearly the number of those types of contacts as I once did.
Anything you buy is a crap shoot. My wife got a brand new name brand computer that was DOA at the house, not too long ago. People die from eating at the hamburger joint.
T.R.
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Let's see if I understand this:
You bought a revolver three years ago and never fired it or checked it. But now its no good. Taurus is at fault and you're focused upon hurting potential fresh sales. The victim role seems irrational.
Taurus has a lengthy warranty. Don't you think sending it back to factory through the Distributor is the right thing to do? Is there something wrong with allowing this company to make it right?
TR
You bought a revolver three years ago and never fired it or checked it. But now its no good. Taurus is at fault and you're focused upon hurting potential fresh sales. The victim role seems irrational.
Taurus has a lengthy warranty. Don't you think sending it back to factory through the Distributor is the right thing to do? Is there something wrong with allowing this company to make it right?
TR
MCgunner
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I ordered a Smith 1917 20 years ago. It came in. It was unshootable. Was that smith and wesson's fault???? 
Getting it fixed is pointless because I still have to pay shipping and have all of the headache time wasted in getting all the info on it done.
Having a broken gun around that I can get fixed for free seems pointless. Shipping is not going to cost that much, you're in FL and it gets shipped to Miami. You've already spent more time venting here than it would have took to download the form on Taurus' website and write down what was wrong with it.
Having a broken gun around that I can get fixed for free seems pointless. Shipping is not going to cost that much, you're in FL and it gets shipped to Miami. You've already spent more time venting here than it would have took to download the form on Taurus' website and write down what was wrong with it.
MCgunner
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I had a smith fix up my 1917 to shootable, if not decent condition. Shot it a while with light handloads, sold it. A busted gun is a worthless gun. That 1917 had miserable end shake and the timing was off on all cylinders. He got it back in time and acceptably tight.
I have had similar timing problems with a Taurus I bought. I wouldn't by another taurus revolver, at least, not without taking it to the range that same day and firing 100 or so rounds through it.
Oddly, I have owned several Rossi's and have never ever ever had a problem.
Trade the Taurus in for a Ruger if you can. If you can't, have a gun smith work on it and see if he can save it.
Oddly, I have owned several Rossi's and have never ever ever had a problem.
Trade the Taurus in for a Ruger if you can. If you can't, have a gun smith work on it and see if he can save it.
scalper
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I don't knock your experience, because it sounds like you definitely got a lemon. I have been pretty lucky with my Taurus revolvers for the most part.
I am real curious though if you sent it to them what they might to improve it? You never know, they might actually repair it and tighten it up. Or you might even get a new gun. Stranger things have happened.
If you do decide to return it to them for repair, let us know what happens.
I am real curious though if you sent it to them what they might to improve it? You never know, they might actually repair it and tighten it up. Or you might even get a new gun. Stranger things have happened.
If you do decide to return it to them for repair, let us know what happens.
thebaldguy
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I know lots of people who have Taurus products who are happy with them, myself included.
To be honest, the only people who I know that have had problems with Taurus have been on gun boards. Use their warranty service to solve the problems.
To be honest, the only people who I know that have had problems with Taurus have been on gun boards. Use their warranty service to solve the problems.
Green Lantern
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A Taurus Model 94 (9-shot .22) was my first gun, and apart from a pretty rough double-action pull, I had no problems out of the gun.
For a while I was lusting after a Taurus CIA, but now I'm strongly thinking of dropping the extra $$$ on a S&W. Not because of the OP's situation, but just of some of the overall negative Taurus experiences I've heard here...
Then again, though....
I dunno....'least I've got a LOT of time to decide before my next purchase!
For a while I was lusting after a Taurus CIA, but now I'm strongly thinking of dropping the extra $$$ on a S&W. Not because of the OP's situation, but just of some of the overall negative Taurus experiences I've heard here...
Then again, though....
I dunno....'least I've got a LOT of time to decide before my next purchase!
shooter429
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I'm with ya all the way on this
Smart decision. Once you get a couple of good S&Ws, you'll never go back to those Taurii POS. I just got a neat little .357 a couple days ago, and love it. The salesman recommended a Taurus. Here is what I got:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e339/shooter429/Nae357.jpg
Love it
Shooter429
Smart decision. Once you get a couple of good S&Ws, you'll never go back to those Taurii POS. I just got a neat little .357 a couple days ago, and love it. The salesman recommended a Taurus. Here is what I got:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e339/shooter429/Nae357.jpg
Love it
Shooter429
The_Shootist
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Shrug
I bought a Taurus M85 used (built in 1999 as per their website) last November and have put about 700 rounds through it and it is still going strong.
Now my Bersa Thunder went 400 rounds on me before it broke.
Yet if you read the posts on this and other boards, thats not supposed to happen as Bersa reputedly makes one of the most reliable for value pistols out there.
But I got a lemon - it happens.
I bought a Taurus M85 used (built in 1999 as per their website) last November and have put about 700 rounds through it and it is still going strong.
Now my Bersa Thunder went 400 rounds on me before it broke.
Yet if you read the posts on this and other boards, thats not supposed to happen as Bersa reputedly makes one of the most reliable for value pistols out there.
But I got a lemon - it happens.
CajunBass
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Well, I suppose they'll just shut down and lock the doors now, won't they?
gruesomenewsom
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companies like taurus, charter arms, etc. never really fancied me. my father was never much of a handgunner and he told me "the only purpose of a handgun is to tide you over till you can get to a rifle. And if you need a handgun don't buy nuthin' but a ruger." So all I own is rugers with the exception of one s&w and one colt (but my collection is young there will be room for many more). Most of my guns i bought used and the only time i had to send a gun back was to have the fixed sights on my vaquero adjusted.
NGIB
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Every company makes the occasional lemon, even the high dollar folks. I had a Taurus that had to go back to the factory a week after I bought it NIB. They had it for a long time but it came back fixed so I'm happy.
Why folks love to focus on Taurus I'm not really sure but the ones I own do the job quite well - at much less cost that the others. My little 94 .22 isn't a S&W 617 by any means; however, with the money I didn't spend on the difference I bought my RIA Compact .45 - 2 for the price of one. To me, spending $600+ on a plinker is just ridiculous and that's what I wanted a DA .22 revolver for.
So go ahead and bash Taurus all you want as it will keep the prices low so I can continue to find good deals out there. I got this one for a great price even though in some folks opinion it's "Taurus Junk"...
Why folks love to focus on Taurus I'm not really sure but the ones I own do the job quite well - at much less cost that the others. My little 94 .22 isn't a S&W 617 by any means; however, with the money I didn't spend on the difference I bought my RIA Compact .45 - 2 for the price of one. To me, spending $600+ on a plinker is just ridiculous and that's what I wanted a DA .22 revolver for.
So go ahead and bash Taurus all you want as it will keep the prices low so I can continue to find good deals out there. I got this one for a great price even though in some folks opinion it's "Taurus Junk"...
tinygnat219
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OOooh, Taurus bashing!
Heh. I am 0 for 7 with Taurus products all purchased brand new, all had problems. I have sold or traded off 5 and my last two are in the shop for repair. Once I get them back, they will be sold for substantial discounts. Every company makes lemons, but there is no reason for it to be a standard in the product line. When asked for inexpensive choices for firearms, I steer people toward Ruger or Hi-Point. Taurus just isn't something I even consider anymore.
Heh. I am 0 for 7 with Taurus products all purchased brand new, all had problems. I have sold or traded off 5 and my last two are in the shop for repair. Once I get them back, they will be sold for substantial discounts. Every company makes lemons, but there is no reason for it to be a standard in the product line. When asked for inexpensive choices for firearms, I steer people toward Ruger or Hi-Point. Taurus just isn't something I even consider anymore.
Sato Ord
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I have to agree with the comment about let the buyer beware. If you buy a used gun, bow, car, boat, ANYTHING and aren't up to the task of checking it out yourself take it to a reputable dealer and have him check it over for you. My local gunsmith knows that even if he doesn't sell me the weapon he will still sell me ammo and other supplies, plus range time, so he has no problem with looking over any weapon I plan to purchase. I don't purchase guns at gun shows if the seller isn't local, and anyone who wants hundreds of my hard earned dollars and isn't willing to let my trusted gunsmith look over the weapon he is trying to sell me is suspect.
I have only owned one Taurus, a model 85 (which is really nothing more than a Chief's Special) and I loved that pistol. I ended up selling it and have been kicking myself ever since.:banghead: I intend to buy another one, but I bought mine new and will most likely buy the replacement the same way.
Everyone I know who owns a Taurus anything is extremely pleased with the weapon(s) they own. I have been hankering for a Commander for a long time, but will most likely buy a Taurus 1911 (I forget the model number right now). Maybe Taurus will make a Commander knock off sometime in the near future. Until then I will also keep my eyes open for a good deal on another model 85.
I have only owned one Taurus, a model 85 (which is really nothing more than a Chief's Special) and I loved that pistol. I ended up selling it and have been kicking myself ever since.:banghead: I intend to buy another one, but I bought mine new and will most likely buy the replacement the same way.
Everyone I know who owns a Taurus anything is extremely pleased with the weapon(s) they own. I have been hankering for a Commander for a long time, but will most likely buy a Taurus 1911 (I forget the model number right now). Maybe Taurus will make a Commander knock off sometime in the near future. Until then I will also keep my eyes open for a good deal on another model 85.
doubleh
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Lemme see, you bought a used, abused Taurus revolver without checking it out and it took you three years to figure out it was in bad shape? And now you are mad at Taurus because someone abused the hell out of it and you didn't figure it out before you bought it? How did Taurus cause any of this? Charge it up to the cost of experience and check your next secondhand purchase over very carefully because now you know what to look for. I have one Taurus revolver and two pistols and they are all good guns. They do exacty what they are supposed to, shoot every time the trigger is pulled and pretty accurately too.
HOME DEPOT GEORGE
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I have no opinion on taurus but I can say from experience that my rugers are just as good as my meighbors smiths, we usually go to the range together and shhot each others guns and in my opinion smiths are grossly overpriced but its just an opinion.
bluetopper
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I own two and have owned a few more Taurus wheelguns and they have always performed flawlessly and been more accurate than I have expected.
MrTuffPaws
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BAWAHAHAHAHA! You got burned by the gun store and not Taurus on this one buddy.
In the meantime, I'll be happily shooting my Taurus revolvers.
In the meantime, I'll be happily shooting my Taurus revolvers.
orionengnr
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Absolutely untrue. S&W will frequently fix older revolvers, free of charge. They fixed one for me, although I clearly stated that I had bought it used, and was aware of the problem when I bought it...
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