Winchester 67a FTF (PIC and Detail heavy)
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hadmanysons
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Ok. Here's some photos of after I worked it down. It closes well on an unfired round and gives me just a little trouble with a single sheet of paper in between the two. I'm gonna try to go the range tomorrow and see how she does. I'm pretty confident it will be fine since it looks just like when I was holding the bolt in place 
There is no more play in the bolt either, thankfully.
There is no more play in the bolt either, thankfully.
hadmanysons
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Agreed. I myself was proud of my accomplishment. Small compared to that of some, but a big deal for me. Besides painting a gun, this was my first major-ish gunsmithing task. And, I didn't screw it up, which is another win
hadmanysons
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So I took it to the range today. Got all setup, put a round in there, Bang! Sweet! Throw some more round in there, bang! bang! bang! bang! click! ***!!! 
Open it up at look at, the F$^#ing shim has disappeared! The JB Weld was still there however. AHHHHHHHHHHH! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Anyway, got it back home. Cleaned it all off and now i'm trying it again for THE LAST TIME before I give in an go to a welder/gunsmith.
Why won't it last? Is it forbidden love? Was it never mean't to be? Is it the age of Aquarius?
Open it up at look at, the F$^#ing shim has disappeared! The JB Weld was still there however. AHHHHHHHHHHH! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Anyway, got it back home. Cleaned it all off and now i'm trying it again for THE LAST TIME before I give in an go to a welder/gunsmith.
Why won't it last? Is it forbidden love? Was it never mean't to be? Is it the age of Aquarius?
Vern Humphrey
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Have you considered soldering?
hadmanysons
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I have. I question how well it will bond with the other metal. If this doesn't work out I'll try that next.
I'm trying to avoid that option for now. But it's still on the table
Don't despair.
Vern's on the right track.
Back when I made spinning wheels and handweaving looms,
For a living,
About 10,000 years ago, I did a lot of silver soldering of steel.
Gotta use a high silver content solder,
Not the hardware store plumbers stuff.
And an acid-etch salve.
Now, you can either find a jeweler or
A smith who knows how to silver solder.
In either case, strip the bolt, because it will get hot
Enough, possibly, to strip the firing pin spring of its temper.
Or you can try it yourself. If you do,
Find a little pencil flame torch,
And read up on silver soldering.
Again, the process will be to take an oversize billet of steel,
Solder it to bolt, and file to fit.
isher
Vern's on the right track.
Back when I made spinning wheels and handweaving looms,
For a living,
About 10,000 years ago, I did a lot of silver soldering of steel.
Gotta use a high silver content solder,
Not the hardware store plumbers stuff.
And an acid-etch salve.
Now, you can either find a jeweler or
A smith who knows how to silver solder.
In either case, strip the bolt, because it will get hot
Enough, possibly, to strip the firing pin spring of its temper.
Or you can try it yourself. If you do,
Find a little pencil flame torch,
And read up on silver soldering.
Again, the process will be to take an oversize billet of steel,
Solder it to bolt, and file to fit.
isher
hadmanysons
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Well, it didn't make it even through 30 seconds of sanding.
However, the left over JB Weld happened to be almost exactly what I needed so we'll see if it stays put and doesn't disintegrate after a bunch of rounds. Silver lining I guess.
However, the left over JB Weld happened to be almost exactly what I needed so we'll see if it stays put and doesn't disintegrate after a bunch of rounds. Silver lining I guess.
Well -
If you had the money, and the equipment, and the skill
MIG would be better than TIG.
However, we are talking about a low tech, low cost
Absolutely reliable fix here.
Silver soldering has these advantages.
It is cheap.
It is simple.
And it works.
The only drawback is, if you are learning,
Don't "burn" the parent metal.
Overheating the joint
Results in a "dry" joint.
Which will fail.
Learned this from installing about a zillion miles
Of soldered copper waterpipe,
Plus the steel on steel
Involved with the wheels and looms.
scyth
If you had the money, and the equipment, and the skill
MIG would be better than TIG.
However, we are talking about a low tech, low cost
Absolutely reliable fix here.
Silver soldering has these advantages.
It is cheap.
It is simple.
And it works.
The only drawback is, if you are learning,
Don't "burn" the parent metal.
Overheating the joint
Results in a "dry" joint.
Which will fail.
Learned this from installing about a zillion miles
Of soldered copper waterpipe,
Plus the steel on steel
Involved with the wheels and looms.
scyth
hadmanysons
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Well, found a guy at work who welds and is almost a certified welder. Long story short he welded a piece of steel to the bolt and would not accept any form of payment, bless his heart. I sanded it down to size and as long as she holds up it looks like a permanent fix no thanks to JB Weld 
Vern Humphrey
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So we diagnosed the problem and now it's fixed.
Who says we're a bunch of worthless bums who spend way too much time on the internet?
Who says we're a bunch of worthless bums who spend way too much time on the internet?
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