winchester and marlin lever action rimfire rifle comparison

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i want to hear your opinion.

which one do you prefer for a .22 LR plinking rifle?

1. winchester model 9422/9417 rimfire

2. marlin model golden 39a rimfire

judging on their appearence, i say marlin is prettier...

what do you think?
 
When I went shopping for a .22 levergun, I bought a Winchester after comparing it with a Marlin and a Browning. Of the examples I looked at, the Winchester had the best fit and finish. You might wind up reaching a different conclusion depending upon what particular rifles you look at.

The 9422 also has a longstanding reputation for very good accuracy. Mine lives up to this.
 
IMO nothing beats my grandfather's Marlin 39. I think he bought it in '36 (traded an older octogon barrel marlin for it...doh!) and we still use it, not much compares to it...
 
Remchester,
I bought a Marlin 39AS recently because most of what I've read tells me the Marlin is more accurate. With a longer and heavier barrel, I would not doubt it, but I don't have data to prove it. I went from a shooter of shoulder-buster rifles to a plinker guy now that I have kids old enough (and interested enough) to ride out to the desert and pop some caps. They already have plinkers. I bought the Marlin for me.

Prettier than a Winchester? Not to me. I like the straight-grip stock and traditional looks of the Winnie. ANd for some reason the 9422's are finished better and the actions are slicker than any of the other Winchester 94's. Not sure why Winchester cannot put the same level of care into their other levers.

I'd like to have both, but I found a good deal on a Marlin first.
 
Here's a wrench in the works...

I have a Winnie 94/22M (.22 Mag)

I have a buddy W/ 2 Marlins both in .22, AND...

I have a Henry .22 levergun, and a Henry Varmint-Express lever in .17HMR...


the Henry's are not QUITE as perfect to look at as the Winnie, but at half the cost (LITERALLY half!) they are by far the best bargain, and I have yet to have a problem with either Henry... they're accurate too...

my buddy and I also agree that the wood on either Henry is BY FAR the prettiest of all our rimfire leverguns...
 
I recently bought a nwew Marlin 39A. I compared all the competing brands. They all have strong points. I went with the Marlin becasuse I liked it the most (subjec tive) and because of the neat single screw takedown (objective).

Brad
 
I had a Marlin 39 that would feed anything reliably. A trip back to Marlin yielded poor results and since sold the rifle. I have to agree though the Marlin sure was purty even though it never really worked. In retrospect I would have liked to try a Win9422.
 
I've always wanted to try out a Winchester .22 lever for a couple of years, but never got around to spending the money to do it. The ones I've shot were okay, but I'm perfectly happy with the Golden 39-A Mountie I got in '63.

John
 
My vote goes to the Marlin, though I admit the Winchester is nice and will give good service. It is also more to the traditional idea of a lever rifle, although the Marlin is actually by far the older design. The Henry is reasonable value for the money, but there have been reports of its lacking in durability.

Pauli and George,

Savage has not made a lever rifle since, I think, 1997, and AFAIK they never made a .22 lever gun. Browning makes the BL-22, and Ruger's 96-17 and 96-22 are good rifles, although not of the traditional configuration.

Jim
 
I have owned and shot both the Marlin 39A/1897T and the Winchester 94/22, and my choice is the Marlin. While the Winchester action is slicker out of the box, the Marlin smooths up after several bricks of ammo. Both rifle actions are perfectly reliable. In the end, the actions feel pretty much the same. To me, the following are the advantages of the Marlin:

1) Solid top action that is drilled and tapped for receiver sights. Tha 94/22 receiver is grooved for tip-off mounts. I despise tip-off mounts.

2) Chambered in .22 Short, .22 Long, and .22 LR. The 94/22 manual specifically mentions to not use .22 Short ammo.

3) Easier disassembly for cleaning with the Marlin. The thumb screw makes take-down a snap.

4) Accuracy. My newer 39AS is a tackdriver.

5) The Marlin is made in the USA. I believe the 94/22 is made in Japan. Nothing against the Japanese workmanship, but I prefer to support American workers whenever possible.
 
I think the 39 and the 9422 are pretty much a toss-up. Both are super rifles.

The 9422 was designed in New Haven and has always been made here in the US, to the best of my knowledge. I bought one of the first ones ever made back in...I want to say 1972. Memory is a little fuzzy on the precise year now.

FWIW, I would say that the 9422s I've seen in the past decade are better finished and assembled than the early ones, which is not true of many guns.
 
I've owned and shot all three of these fine rifles.

The Marlin has a lot going for it, no question. Build quality(i.e. fit and finish), looks, handling, heft, heritage etc. The 1897T is a beauty, for sure, but not worth $200 MORE than it's sibling, or the competition. Perhaps that's why it was discontinued. You can can find used Mounties or Carbines out there which do have the straight stock, if that's the most appealing.

I simply cannot warm-up to the 39s. Their short stubby triggers with sharp edges are a turn-off for me, just the same as their centerfire kin. On the .22s, it's normally gold-plated, so altering it is even more of a chore. The forend seems either too hefty, as on the 39A, or too thin, as with the Carbine. The action itself is also somewhat diminutive, in comparison to the 94/22.

Winchester shares the heft, appearance and heritage of the larger guns. Blueing is normally nicer than on the Marlins, and right there with the BL. The longer, wider trigger offers me a lot more purchase, and the lever stroke out of the box is light years ahead of the Marlin. The Winnie lever-stroke is what the Henry tries to emulate. After jumping through issues with a scope base for the Marlin, the ability to just mount tip-offs is a nice feature of the Winnie receiver.

The BL's short throw lever makes it feel twice as fast. Certainly there is the comfort issue, also. It's the only gun with a recessed target-style crown. In common with Marlin, it will handle S, L and LR(Winchester won't mark their gun for Shorts any longer, though they still can digest them.). The mag tube is not the typical 1/8-turn-to-release. It actually has a spring-loaded locking tab which you must push in to release. Nice touch, and I doubt it will ever wear or become sloppy in fit as with the others.

I had one for awhile before selling it. The lever throw, and having the trigger stay with the lever were not the issue. The lever stroke was more of a two stage process, the latter of which was overcoming the hammer-spring to cock it. The oomph required resulted in the stock shifting down off of my shoulder and away from my cheek. If I really pushed it in snug to my shoulder, it was stable, but then that would become uncomfortable after a bit. Otherwise, it remains a quality rifle in every respect, and some features are even a step-up from the Winchester and Marlin offerings. IMHO, the trigger is both the heaviest and the hardest to use of the three.

Advantage: Winchester
 
Ive had a Marlin 39 since 1959.

Shot it today for the first time in a while and forgot how much fun a 22 can be. Was easily popping round after round into a 2 inch circle with a Wms peep at 25 yards...Had three shots touching with open sights at 50 yards...feed all the junky 22s I had without a burp

Its the Caddilac of 22s!

WildleverboyAlaskas
 
A few years ago I decided I needed a lever action .22 rifle. I had played around with most of them at one time or another so I didn't really do a lot of shopping.
One thing that was madatory in my selection was that it be as short as possible. The reason for this was simple. At the time I enjoyed walking with my dog in the desert. I wanted a .22 rifle to carry with me that I could hold in one hand by the pistol grip and not have the barrel touch the ground and preferably not come close to the ground. I didn't want to have to do anything extra to carry a rifle.
At the time I wanted a Marlin. As a kid, a couple of my friends had Marlin Model 39 rifles and I loved them. Since that time I have read time and time again about how accurate the Marlins were and how satisfied thier owners were with them. I also like the looks of them. However, as best as I could tell, Marlin didn't make a short carbine. I know they DID make a carbine, but appearently they didn't when I wanted to buy one. So, I went with the Winchester 9422 Trapper. Wouldn't you know it, a week later my local dealer took in a Marlin carbine, take down complete with the carry case for storing the carbine when broken down. But, I didn't buy it. I had just purchased my Winchester. Fate had dealt it's hand.
I have been pretty satisfied with the Winchester. In fact it only has one fault. The front sight is that round type that makes precise aiming for me difficult. It seems to be plenty accurate although I don't recall having ever fired for groups on paper. It feeds fine, it is the right size, and it looks good. I don't have any regrets. Well maybe a little bit.
 
25th Anniversary Model Winchester 9422

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Although I haven't owned or shot a Marlin 39, I've been really happy with this little jewel. Fit and finish are great and the figure in the wood is outstanding.

I personally prefer the aesthetics of the Winchester over the Marlin. Just personal preference.

stellarpod
 
The 9422 was designed in New Haven and has always been made here in the US, to the best of my knowledge.
While the 94/22 was once made in the USA, it is now made in Japan. I believe the manufacturer is Mikoru, but I am not positive. The quality of the 94/22 is top-notch, but the rifle's mix of features is not for me.

The Marlin is a much better fit for me, and I really enjoy my three samples. My only unfulfilled wish with the Marlin is that the top tang is not drilled and tapped for a tang sight. I really like the Marble tang sight for these rifles. The Williams receiver sight is also great for these rifles, but the Marble just looks like it belongs on a rifle that has been in production for more than a century (the basic design was first marketed in 1897).
 
I'm one of those guys forever shopping for one but haven't yet plunked down the cash to own one... but I've handled and researched both. I prefer the half-pistol or curved grip for shooting and looks, but the straight grips for carrying and tradition. What I've found, YMMV, is that the Marlins are a little less expensive, tougher, and easier to clean and feed. The Winchesters are smoother, heavier, and better fit & finish.

It seems like the 39A's are more "work horse" or truck guns, whereas the 9422 is more carefully taken care of and brought out to play with. For plinking, either one will do... just a matter of what's available, price, and what feels better when you pick it up.
 
While the 94/22 was once made in the USA, it is now made in Japan.

I'm pretty sure that isn't correct. I've seen a couple of recently-arrived boxes that still say they're made here. I called USRAC on the chance that the boxes came from the back of a distributor's shelves and maybe didn't correctly reflect current manufacture, but USRAC says that the 9422 is still made in New Haven.

One thing I'll give the Marlin credit for. I like shooting with receiver sights and the Williams FP for the grooved receiver is in my opinion pretty fragile. A FP or Lyman or similar sight mounted snugly on the reciever would be a good bit tougher. Actually, I don't really care for the aluminum reciever sights at all...I buy older, all-steel sights, but that's a different story.
 
winchester 9422 25th anniversary

this rifle is new in b ox has never been fired i'm 70yrs old should i shoot it or save it as new has all the papers
 
While the 94/22 was once made in the USA, it is now made in Japan.
Actually, it isn't made anywhere anymore, and never was made in Japan.
The machinery was worn out, and it was discontinued from the USRAC line shortly before they went bankrupt and folded their tent two years ago. No new 9422's, 9422M's or 9417's have been made since 2005.

January 1, 2005
MORGAN, UTAH
Since 1972, Winchester® has built one of the most famous and best loved rimfires on the market: the Model 9422. More than just a rimfire rifle, it is a foundation for learning accuracy, safety and building good memories. Model 9422s are appreciated by firearms aficionados and first-time buyers alike. The smooth, fluid action, special target crowns for improved accuracy and excellent fit and finish were all the evidence necessary to show that they were built to higher standards than other rimfires. Now, after 33 years, production of the time- honored Model 9422 is ending. The tooling is being retired, and the production line at the New Haven, Connecticut facility will stop. Never again will you have the opportunity to purchase rifles like these final production 9422s. In a well-deserved final applause, a special, limited edition run of only 9422 will be produced in a Tribute Series, and 222 in the Custom Edition. Do not delay in selecting your rifle, you won't get a second chance.

As a final tribute, Winchester will offer five models.

Suggested Retail
High Grade Traditional - $1050 Long Rifle, $1078 WMR
High Grade Legacy - $1085 Long Rifle, $1113 WMR
Special Edition Traditional- $ 516 Long Rifle, $ 545 WMR
Special Edition Legacy.- $551 Long Rifle, $579 WMR


No 9422, 9422M, or 9417 was ever made anywhere but at the Winchester, later USRAC factory in New Haven CT!

Other lever-action USRAC/Winchester/Browning's that have been made in Japan include the 1892, 1895, 1886, and Model 1885 Single-Shot.

rcmodel
 
Wow, this is an old thread! Some of the original posters may now be in rest homes (my wife says I'm getting close) or worse! Anyway, I like my 9422 and my hunting buddy likes his 39. Both are great guns.
 
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