Wish I knew

[confederatemule]

I bought this gun at a gun & knife show. I know nothing about this revolver. It looks to be never fired. (?) I do not know who made it nor what year it is supposed to be a reproduction of. It is Black Powder, .36 caliber, 5 5/8" barrel, and 11" overall. The shinny parts are "not" SS. I can find no blimishes in the shinney part so I think it is not nickle nor chrome. But, I do not know.

The engraver must of removed any identification. I do not know if the engraving was done by the orignal maker or by an individual.

There were "proof" marks stamped on the bottom of the frame, where the cylinder and barrel meet. The "proof" marks have been removed, but when the light is just right it is obvious that they have been removed. The only thing left is what looks like an "A" with a short "M" between the bottom legs of the "A". This symbol would have been in the bottom left corner of the original "proof" mark group.
The "Proof" marks are still on the forward end of the cylinder. But, the only thing legible is "PN".

There is a serial number on the bottom of the grip strap.

I would sure apreciate any kind of information about this gun.

Mule

 

[Fingers McGee]

It's a Sheriffs model 1861 Navy

The only thing left is what looks like an "A" with a short "M" between the bottom legs of the "A" is the Armi San Marco makers mark. There should be some roman numerals on the right side of the frame mixed in with the engraving or under the frame with the SN that would be the date code.

 

[confederatemule]

It's a Sheriffs model 1861 Navy

The only thing left is what looks like an "A" with a short "M" between the bottom legs of the "A" is the Armi San Marco makers mark. There should be some roman numerals on the right side of the frame mixed in with the engraving or under the frame with the SN that would be the date code.

Thanks fer the response.

I can not see any thing mixed in with the engraving.
The serial number on thegrip butt strap is "D26871". This number is also hand written, with ball point pen, in the back groove of the wooden grip.

The engraving on the cylinder and hammer does not match the rest of it. The hammer and cylinder seems to be cut deeper.

Oh, just below the hammer are the initials "S L O". I am assuming they are initials.

I apologize fer the picture quality. I wish I could take good clear close up pictures. I have a Son-in-Law who does photography part time. I might be able to get him to take some. Although he does not have much spare time.

 

[Blackpowdershooter44]

I think CVA or Traditions used to import and sell these.

How do you like the gun itself?

 

[confederatemule]

I think CVA or Traditions used to import and sell these.

How do you like the gun itself?

I ain't shot it, but I like the way it feels. I disassembled it and cleaned it thoroughly and made sure all screws were tight. I said that it looked to have never been shot, but it looked like there was residue from being shot, maybe once. Also, one nipple is blue instead of shinny. Like maybe it has been replaced.

I have 2 Remington Army's and one Army Sheriff's model, reproductions, of course. The Sheriff's model has a 4 7/8" barrel and the larger grips, as well as the hinged loading lever. It looks very rough and has a rust pitted bore, but will shoot,

Even if this gun was not shinny I would like the feel of it much better than the army guns.

 

[4v50 Gary]

If you plan to use it, read these threads:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=223515
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=65820

There are more useful thread in the sticky thread, Black Powder Essentials.

 

[confederatemule]

If you plan to use it, read these threads:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=223515
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=65820

There are more useful thread in the sticky thread, Black Powder Essentials.

thanks fer the threads. Took me a while, but, I read every word.

 

[Noz]

It is an Armi San Marco. I had one very similar except it was the Army model in 44. Pretty sad. Gave up on making it into a competition gun.

 

[confederatemule]

Thanks fer the response.

I can not see any thing mixed in with the engraving.
The serial number on thegrip butt strap is "D26871". This number is also hand written, with ball point pen, in the back groove of the wooden grip.

The engraving on the cylinder and hammer does not match the rest of it. The hammer and cylinder seems to be cut deeper.

Oh, just below the hammer are the initials "S L O". I am assuming they are initials.

I apologize fer the picture quality. I wish I could take good clear close up pictures. I have a Son-in-Law who does photography part time. I might be able to get him to take some. Although he does not have much spare time.

Is there a way to use the serial number in this quote to get the date of manufacture?
Also, are there any ideas about the "S L O"?

Mule

 

[expat_alaska]

The serial number, even on the Italian replicas, at a minimum, tends to be on the bottom of the frame where it meets the barrel lug, adjacent to your polished-out ASM logo.

The serial number on the grip butt strap is "D26871". This number is also hand written, with ball point pen, in the back groove of the wooden grip.

I am assuming the this number is on the side of the backstrap, only viewable when the wood is removed. If so, this is most probably an ASM assembly number and not the serial number of the pistol. It is used at the factory when assembling the pistol so that the backstrap/triggerguard/wood are used as a group, having been fitted as such. Pietta does that to this day.

Since the ASM logo is barely visible, the guy who created this "custom" version probably obliterated the serial number(s).

I say that as I have an ASM 1848 Pocket Pistol (date code XIX [1963]) that has the serial number 228 stamped in 4 locations visible without disassembling the pistol.

I think someone went to great lengths to try to defarb this Italian copy and used engraving to cover it up. The initials "SLO" are a way to personalize this pistol, IMO.

Just my $.02 worth.

Jim

 

[confederatemule]

The only two places I found that number are here and the wood.

Well, I guess I'll have a something to ponder over forever.

 

[Ephraim Kibbey]

Check the bottom of the frame near the trigger guard again with a magnifying glass under a strong light. In addition to the two proof marks and the ASM pyramid logo, there should be a rectangle with two letters enclosed. This is the date code for the year that the frame was proofed by the Italian authorities. If you can make out the two letters, I can tell you when it was proofed.

 

[confederatemule]

Check the bottom of the frame near the trigger guard again with a magnifying glass under a strong light. In addition to the two proof marks and the ASM pyramid logo, there should be a rectangle with two letters enclosed. This is the date code for the year that the frame was proofed by the Italian authorities. If you can make out the two letters, I can tell you when it was proofed.

Can't make it out. It doesn't really matter. I just thought it would be nice to know.

I'm thankin everyone for your help.

Mule

 

[TheRodDoc]

Just a guess. The SLO could stand for - San Luis Obispo, California.

This is where the Smith & Wesson International Revolver championship is held.
Could have been venders there that sold the kit and also engravers there for sure. A souviner for someone.
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/article39153768.html