Wishing for a Ruger 1911

[Cosmoline]

If Ruger made a 1911, it would weigh in at 50 ounces and be a third again as large all around as a standard 1911.

Seriously, Ruger should stick to what Ruger does best--big revolvers. They make the toughest and arguably the best revolvers in the world. My only wish is that they'd offer more cartridge chamberings such as a 10mm SP-101

 

[45R]

Ruger's 1911 would come with the warning labels stamped all over the slide. YUCK Then again it would probably be built like a tank.

 

[TheEgg]

Maybe they have some sort of contractual obligation with some of their frame customers to "not compete" with them.

 

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Maybe because they could never perfect the 5-round 1911 magazine that the gun would ship with?

DanO

 

[brickboy240]

Why?

Aren't there enough good 1911s to choose from?

Besides, Ruger's centerfire autos are nothing to write home about. Big, blocky, ugly and clunky-feeling....yuk!

I'll take my Springfield Armory Mil-Spec, Sig 220 or Hi-Power over a Ruger centerfire autopistol anyday.

The only decent things Ruger makes are the MkII pistol and their single action revolvers. The rest of their stuff is either too clunky/chunky or just feels too cheap to me...sorry!

-Brickboy240

 

[wally]

I think that Ruger could make a decent 1911 pistol that would be affordable. in the $450-550 range OTD. Of course it would sport a cast frame and slide.

Probably could, but I doubt it could be better than the Armscor 45 that sells for ~$350. The Ruger name is not not worth $100-200 for me.

For every Ruger fan that'd buy one because its a "Ruger" their is probably another
person that wouldn't because of Ol' Bill's commnets about "not needing more than 10 rounds" that many regard as a sell-out that helped bring about the magazine bans and AWB, not to mention their reufusal to market Mini-14 20 & 30 round mags to civilians.

--wally.

 

[Seraph]

For every Ruger fan that'd buy one because its a "Ruger" their is probably another person that wouldn't because of Ol' Bill's commnets about "not needing more than 10 rounds" that many regard as a sell-out that helped bring about the magazine bans and AWB, not to mention their reufusal to market Mini-14 20 & 30 round mags to civilians.

So, what's your take on Colt's "Smart Gun" project?

 

[1911JMB]

What about HK? I read a couple years ago in a G&A special edition magazine about 1911's that HK was going to make 1911's, and as of yet I have heard nothing of this happening. Did this ever happen, or was this just a roomer?

 

[rockstar.esq]

First off, Ruger makes some of the strongest guns I have ever heard of. All the whining that Colt is all we need shows me that these guys haven't got the memo that Colt doesn't work for us. They won't make enough guns to satisfy demand and they don't care to create a new gun at all. I have known over a dozen Ruger handgun owners that have never experienced a failure nor have they needed to return the gun for warranty work. I'm right there with those of you that find their offerings ugly. However I have never heard of a 1911 brand that didn't have problems with reliability. I don't care that some of you own 1911's that run great. My point is that we should admit that the gun costs way too much. We should also admit that it isn't more accurate than Ruger's line. We should also admit that as a whole, there are fewer problems with Ruger's gun design. Now if Ruger were to enter the 1911 market. My guess is that it would be superior in much the same way that their 2 barrel shotguns are in that they aren't as expensive and they are as reliable as the designs they imitate. Personally, I think that S&W deserves much more criticism for their auto designs. If memory serves, they were the first to introduce the evil magazine disconnect. Further, the Sigma line in specific has had a spotty performance at best. Not to mention, they just aren't as strong.

 

[DT Guy]

Let's see-Ruger makes it 'hard' to take the magazine disconnect out (saving us from our stupid selves; thanks, Uncle Bill!) and was the company that added a 'loaded chamber indicator' to a rimfire that would actually FIRE the weapon if struck....hmm, are we safe yet?

They also make Volvo look svelte in terms of aesthetics, adding a new dimension to the word 'blocky.' Add the lawyer billboards and their writing of the assault weapon ban, plus their insistence on casting their 'super-strong' firearms, and I can live without a Ruger 1911 as easily as I can live without a severe beating.


Larry

 

[Lone_Gunman]

I would rather Kia start building Testerosas than Ruger start building
1911s.

 

[wheelgunslinger]

I'll just have to agree with DTGuy and Lone Gunman.
I own one of those crappy P345s, and I wouldn't buy another Ruger for both lack of function and politics.
And, just to stay on subject, what's the point of ANOTHER 1911 clone? So you can say it's made in the U.S.? :banghead: That's really not a good enough reason for me.
I wouldn't fly on a plane made by Harley-Davidson and I won't trust my life to a Ruger automatic.

 

[larry starling]

If ruger ever made a 1911 im sure it would be a cheap mim filled cast framed pistol. Rugers are very reliable pistols, but IMHO I think there ugly and cheap looking....

 

[MICHAEL T]

Ruger Don't they make the Hi -Point.
I had a mini 14 once I never have another Ruger in my house.

 

[1911JMB]

I'll ask again, is HK actually going to start making 1911's or was that just wishful thinking in the gun rags?

 

[wally]

So, what's your take on Colt's "Smart Gun" project?

I don't have any particular take on Colt's, Taurus', or anyone else who is working one.

Since a significant number of cops killed are shot with their own gun (the recent Atlanta courtroom escape and shootings could be a poster child) its no surprise a potential market is seen.

IF the technology existed and worked reliably I might be intrested in one as my carry piece. OTOH in states like New Jersey the whole "smart gun" thing is just back door gun control.

Colt is perhaps the most dangererous as since they seem to not care one wit about meeting civilian demand, any potential boycotts would have little potential for effect. I personally don't think Colt guns are anything special and their price premium for the name exceeded what I'm willing to pay ten years ago.

--wally.

 

[OldNavy]

Rugers....

Ruger autos CAN be ammo sensitive. My P95DC 9mm will not reliably feed anything lighter than a 140 grain bullet, but Winchester 142 grain hollow points, it is as reliable as sunrise and more accurate than I am.

My early production P345 (with safety versus de-cocker) has never had a failure to feed and fire in over 600 rounds--including everything from cheap Wolf ammo up through Gold Dot. Accurate? Enough that I enjoy plinking offhand at clay birds set against the 50 yard back stop--and I break an average of one for every four shots [no brag, just fact. I've got witnesses!]. I don't consider myself anything but a fair marksman, but Rugers suit me just fine! By the way, I don't recommend the safety instead of de-cocker versions of the P345 as a defensive weapon. The safety lacks a truly effective detent, and it requires very little downward movement to disable the pistol, and a safety on a double action auto doesn't make a lot of sense anyway. Get one of the newer ones the the de-cocker with a good strong return spring and you'll have truly great .45!